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Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.

Invited Attendees

• IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kevin Doyle
• Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
• ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
• MontaVista - Anna Dushistova

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Attendees

• Attendees:
• Regrets:

Agenda

• Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Aug-2008
• Prev meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 16-Jul-2008
• Skype Call Quality

New Stuff

Old Stuff

• bug 240991 Startup creates Display on Worker Thread
  • DaveM: RSEUIPlugin.start() is not on the Main thread! Seems to be reproducable when Eclipse is "Restarted" rather than "Started". Issue is hit because Logger is instantiated from RSEUIPlugin.start(), registers Preference / ModelChangeEvent, which leads to DaveD's workaround for bug 227750 to fail
  • Martin: How is the backtrace (Restart) created? Even the intended fix (using a non-UI IRSEInteractionProvider) would not fix this
  • Uwe: Swing/SWT Integration? Is any plugin directly using Bundle.loadClass? That's dangerous since it changes the startlevel
  • Martin: Could instantiation of the Logger be deferred from RSEUIPlugin.start() to somewhere else (later)?
  • People are concerned about using Display.getDefault() -- using IWorkbench.getDisplay() is recommended instead (or, use PlatformUI.isWorkbenchRunning())
  • AI DaveM Comment on Bugzilla what is done in the debuggee to get the backtrace on StartLevelEventThread (Martin cannot reproduce)
  • AI DaveM Try to instantiate the Logger later, or at least try deferring addition of the ModelChangeListeners
  • AI Martin Write the real fix (interaction providers) mid August

• bug 240998 Extension Point for User Actions
  • Kevin: EP used to add compile commands -- will eventually want to get rid of this extension point, will look at workarounds - AI Kevin mark bug as INVALID or WONTFIX

• bug 238574 Website Revamp
  • AI Martin ask the Community (Remy, Nick)

• Unittests
  • Martin added "soft disable" capability for Unittests -- when writing new tests, please add the if(isTestDisabled()) return;
  • Multi-Target: RSEFileStoreTest and FileServiceTest;
  • Xuan: Kevin trying some Abbot stuff, might contribute -- Abbot is under CPL
  • AI Martin New build driver -- deadline Jul/31
  • Xuan: Want to release themselves
    • AI Martin Add M-build Cronjob for Tue 0600 Ottawa time
    • Relengtool: Download
    • AI Xuan Release yourself - Process: Select plugins to release, right-click > Team > Release Be sure to not release inconsistent stuff, i.e. fixes that depend on other stuff that you're not releasing
  • bug 230917 [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- AI Xuan look at
  • New Build System due Jul 31 (AI Martin)

• Findbugs and other cleanup
  • Broken Links in Docs: Xenu's LinkSleuth
  • Xuan: DVT, bug 240940, bug 240972 high priority fixes - AI DaveM address

• 3.1 Plan
  • Martin marked some bugzilla items with "plan" keyword
  • AI Everyone attach "plan" keyword to "interesting" i.e. larger or important bugs, until end July
  • DSDP presentation to the Board on Sep 17, IBM wants to review the draft, AI Martin check, AI Xuan check deadline

Hot Bugs being discussed

• bug 233461 Refresh expanded Folders -- IFileService#list to return children and parent in one step, how to be API compatible?
  • DaveM: Not in favor of changing API, don't expect getFile() to be expensive, Cache in Service Layer. Against explicit API change. Plain semantic change is the least of the evils.
  • Martin against Caching on Service Layer.
  • Original bug as specified must be fixed - want the fix in there as soon as possible, because it fixes IRemoteFile problems
  • AI Martin can easily adapt unittests to run performance metrics
  • Split up the bug: Original bug 233461 for the original problem only, include a small patch WITHOUT API change but with unittests. Create a new bug for the API Changes / Preformance Improvements, with the 2nd part of the patch. Discuss API separately. Original bug to be committed into an I-build today. AI Martin and Dave to hook up on Skype later today.
• bug 199596 [refresh][ftp] Changing a file/folder's Read-Only attribute doesn't always update IRemoteFile -- is it fixed now? -- patch not yet committed?
• bug 234038 [files][refresh] Changing file permissions does not update property sheet or refresh tree -- is it fixed? -- patch not yet committed? -- AI DaveM create new bug for Tableview
• bug 234026 [apidoc] IFileService#createFolder() does not specify whether parent folders are created
  • Update Service Docs and Impl to make the Service create parent folders
• bug 227750 [efs][regression] Eclipse with RSE 3.0 don't start or Display problems -- DaveD: Sounds like should be deferred to 3.1

Plan for Next Steps

• Bug Triage
  • AI Everyone must review your assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 where possible
  • All "3.0" assigned bugs must be triaged now and either assigned a proper RC milestone or 3.0.1 (with the exception of Documentation-only fixes)
  • Work on remaining ones by priority
  • Open RC2 Assigned bugs, open 3.0 Assigned bugs
  • Severity Major, Hi-Priority
  • Current Statistics: 1 blocker (Martin), 1 critical (Martin), 8 major (DaveD, Kevin, Martin, Michael), 23 other P2's -- was 10 major / 20 P2's last week
  • Community contributions: Only few unapplied patches right now, last chance to apply now before 3.0 (see also the Bug Process Page for a query)

• New and Noteworthy
  • I'll need a list of new features for a New&Noteworthy, and for the Release Review. Release Review material is due next week.
  • See CDT/User/NewIn50 for example; for TM, I put most news into our Build Notes already, so it should be possible to compile the N&N out of the build notes
  • For the N&N, please make screenshots and work on "your" new features, e.g.
    • Useractions

• Cleanup Work
  • Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do. What do we consider must-have's?
    • Unittests, unittests, unittests!
    • New releng scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation)
    • Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool)
    • Migration Notes (for 2.0 / for 1.0?)
    • API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - bug 227368, bug 225529 comment 4 and bug 225529 comment 6 - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership
    • Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here
    • Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing, unclear, duplicated
    • Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work)
    • Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible
    • Add more Unittests -- ideally write an accompanying unittest for every bugfix
    • Run Findbugs -- Update site on http://findbugs.cs.umd.edu/eclipse, Quickdocs by Rado in tm-dev E-Mail
      • Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss link
  • TM Website: revamp should really be complete for Ganymede! Kevin and Martin won't have time. DaveD will try to get to it, but cannot promise.

Questions

• DaveD context menu on SystemView / TeamView: something going on with the way how items are being added. Bringing up the context menu immediately after startup shows some debugger related stuff. Martin: bug 208062

Old Stuff

• Unit Tests - next priority after API
• Migrating to new Releng on dsdp.eclipse.org (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc)

• Bugzilla:
  • Severity Major, hi-priority

• Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests
  • Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
  • Current situation is on this bugzilla report

Vacation, away

• Martin vacation Jul 21-22, on and off on Thurs and Fri Jul 17-18
• DaveM vacation first week of August
• DaveD in July
• Anna in July

Action Items

• Last Meeting Action Items
• Everyone: attach "plan" keyword to "interesting" bugs for 3.1 until end July
• Anna:
• DaveD:
• DaveM: bug 240991: comment on bug how the backtrace is created in the debugger, try registering logger events later; DVT bug 240940, bug 240972 fix; old: commit bug 199596; bug 233480 - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension
• Kevin: bug 240998 compile commands extension point mark INVALID or WONTFIX
• Xuan: Get Releng tool and release fixes yourself for bi-weekly M-builds; check deadline for PMC Board Presentation review; old Look at bug 230917 Archive Handler Unittests
• Martin: Cronjob for Tue 0600 M-builds; bug 238574 Website ask for Community Help; new Builder until end July; bug 227750 Display in non-UI write fix until mid August; old Run performance tests for bug 233461; Test 2.0->3.0 Update; Update Project Plan; File new bug for bug 165171; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan
• Javier: Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
• Michael: Terminal: Work on bug 185348 Terminal API
• Uwe: -
• Rado: -
• Felix: -
• Eugene: -

Next Meeting

• Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 3-Sep-2008 (2 weeks) at 9am PST / 1600 UTC
• DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 17-Sep-2008 (4 weeks) at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1700 Salzburg