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== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
* '''C'mon and celebrate!'''
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=== C'mon and celebrate! ===
** RSE 1.0 is released - what did we accomplish in the past year?
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* RSE 1.0 is released - just in time
*** Created infrastructure - project, website, wiki, mailing list, newsgroup, bugzilla, processes for everything
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** Fabulous press coverage on Eclipse Website: http://www.eclipse.org/org/press-release/20061112dsdp_milestone.php
*** Got all the code through legal review, implemented nightly build system
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** Doug Gaff talking to 13 press people: http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/dsdp-pmc/msg00387.html
*** Grew the community - contributors and users, 220 downloads on 1.0RC2; EclipseCon talk, upcoming tutorial
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** Blogs by [http://tmober.blogspot.com Martin] and [http://douggaff.blogspot.com/2006/11/dsdp-yesterday-today-and-tomorrow.html Doug]
*** Refactored RSE (service/subsystem approach), implemented deferred queries
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** Looks like we are riding the wave of general excitement around Eclipse and Embedded
*** Added ssh and ftp subsystems, discovery component
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** Release looks good, one very late bugfix by Michael [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=164223 bug 164223: FTP binary transfer]
** In the past year: What did you like? What did you dislike? What's the favorite thing you want to do next?
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** [[TM and RSE FAQ]], Tutorial, [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/tutorial/index.php Getting Started], Website etc. all done
*** DaveD:
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*** First-time users should be directed to the main [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm Website]
*** DaveM:
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** Downloads today at 1200UTC (4 hours ago): SDK 72, rseserver-win 16, linux 15, update-site 13
*** Kushal:
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* What did we accomplish in the past year?
*** Javier:
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** Created infrastructure - project, website, wiki, mailing list, newsgroup, bugzilla, processes for everything
*** Michael:
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** Got all the code through legal review, implemented nightly build system
*** Ted:
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** Grew the community - contributors and users, 220 downloads on 1.0RC2; EclipseCon talk, upcoming tutorial
*** Uwe:
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** Refactored RSE (service/subsystem approach), implemented deferred queries
*** Martin:
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** Added ssh and ftp subsystems, discovery component
** Bug statistics - [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/developmnet/bug_process.php Bug Process Page]
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* In the past year: What did you like? What's the favorite thing you want to do next?
** How do you like our processes? Improvements, Suggestions?
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** DaveD:
*** Bugzilla: All have their personal queries?
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** DaveM:
*** [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] - was the effort right? Especially verification
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** Kushal:
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** Javier:
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** Michael:
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** Ted:
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** Uwe:
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** Martin:
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* Martin to also make personal interviews regarding our processes, improvements, suggestions, bugzilla, testing etc.
 
* Any Latest News?
 
* Any Latest News?
 
** Michael --
 
** Michael --
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** Ted --
 
** Other News --
 
** Other News --
* Top Priorities this week:
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** '''#1 - Being responsive''' - on Newsgroup, Mailinglist and bug reports. We'll probably get lots of new users as we have RSE 1.0. Let's nurture our user community and encourage them to become contributors in case they have requests. Make sure that E-Mail notifications are turned on for bugzilla (and probably also the Wiki FAQ etc.)
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=== Top Priorities this week ===
** '''#2 - Continue fixing bugs and improving documentation''' - Let's make sure that users who have problems with 1.0 can get a subsequent I-build as patch soon after. Let's make sure users get missing documentation wherever needed. Instead of answering a question by E-Mail, let's fix the corresponding documentation or FAQ and point the users to it.
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* '''Convert Downloaders to Contributors'''.
** '''#3 - Plan RSE 2.0'''
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* '''#1 - Being responsive''' - on Newsgroup, Mailinglist and bug reports. We'll probably get lots of new users as we have RSE 1.0. Let's nurture our user community and encourage them to become contributors in case they have requests. Make sure that E-Mail notifications are turned on for bugzilla (and probably also the Wiki FAQ etc.)
* Upcoming Work
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* '''#2 - Plan RSE 1.0.1 and 2.0'''
** Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD)
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* '''#3 - Continue fixing bugs and improving documentation''' - Let's make sure that users who have problems with 1.0 can get a subsequent I-build as patch soon after. Let's make sure users get missing documentation wherever needed. Instead of answering a question by E-Mail, let's fix the corresponding documentation or FAQ and point the users to it.
** Start creating Unit Tests, Testing feature (DaveD, Uwe)
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** Build Schedule: Will do an I-build on thursday at 8am Ottawa every week. Should we call it M-build?
** Continue bug fixing on HEAD (All)
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*** Look at your personal bugs and assign target milestones: What can you fix for 1.0.1? What can you fix for 2.0? For anything yet unknown, keep the open milestone "---"
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=== Upcoming Work ===
*** Bugzilla: When fixing a bug, please add a short note where it was fixed, e.g. "Fixed in DStoreRemoteFile". This helps tremendously to find and understand the fix, in case it should be needed again later
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* Triage your assigned Bugs - [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/developmnet/bug_process.php Bug Process Page]
** Fix compiler warnings (Kushal) - prepare for running FindBugs
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** Assign Target Milestones: 1.0.1 or 2.0 to indicate committed fixes; --- for yet unknown
** Add ISV Javadoc where it is still missing or incorrect; review, and improve all docs
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** Status NEW --> ASSIGNED
** [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] - Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan
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** Bugzilla: When fixing a bug, please add a short note where it was fixed, e.g. "Fixed in DStoreRemoteFile". This helps tremendously to find and understand the fix, in case it should be needed again later
** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW]
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* Start IBM and EMO review process for Montavista SSH Processes, User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD)
*** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch],
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* Start creating Unit Tests, Testing feature (DaveD, Uwe)
* Communications
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* [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] - Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan
** We should have a longer architecture / planning meeting for upcoming "larger" 2.0 changes soon. Possible Dates?
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* [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]]
** [[DSDP/TM/Code_Ownership]]
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** API changes: we'll not introduce any api changes between 1.0 and 1.0.1
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=== Communications ===
*** But prepare for API changes soon after 1.0.1
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* Upcoming Milestones:
** Shall we get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif ?
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** '''RSE 1.0.1 -- December 15, 2006''' (4 weeks from now!)
** Shall we get rid of commented out source code ?
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** '''RSE 2.0M4 (with Europa M4) -- January 4, 2007''' (3 weeks later)
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*** Build system needs to be switched from 3.2.1 based build to Europa build after Dec.15 -- Ted?
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** For more Europa dates, see the [[Europa Simultaneous Release]] page
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* API changes: we'll not introduce any api changes between 1.0 and 1.0.1; instead, DOCUMENT the APIs, along the way we'll see what needs to be improved. Prepare for API changes soon after 1.0.1
 
* Change Requests
 
* Change Requests
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
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== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 7-Nov-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 7-Nov-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
* '''DaveD''' - Edit Code Ownership. Submit UDA and Import/Export for review; JUnit tests; Hi-Pri bugs. New bug for moving DTD.
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* '''DaveD''' - Bug Triage. Edit Code Ownership. Submit 3 CQs to IPZilla; JUnit tests;
* '''DaveM''' - Enter Resume into www.eclipsecon.org; Bugs
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* '''DaveM''' - Enter Resume into www.eclipsecon.org; Bug Triage.
* '''Kushal''' - Bugs
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* '''Kushal''' - Bug Triage.
* '''Martin''' - Work on 2.0 project plan; TM FAQ on the Wiki; Hi-pri bugs;
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* '''Martin''' - Work on 2.0 project plan; TM FAQ on the Wiki; Bug Triage.
* '''Javier''' - Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed and works
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* '''Javier''' - Bug Triage. Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed and works
* '''Ted''' - Terminalview; Document the build process
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* '''Ted''' - Make the Build ready for Europa
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* '''Michael''' - Terminalview
  
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 21-Nov-2006]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2006&month=11&day=21hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 8am SFO / 10.00am Rochester / 12.00pm Toronto / 4pm London / 5pm Salzburg]
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* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 21-Nov-2006]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2006&month=11&day=21hour=17&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 9am SFO / 11.00am Rochester / 12.00pm Toronto / 5pm London / 6pm Salzburg]
 
* Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Dec-2006]] at 9am PST
 
* Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Dec-2006]] at 9am PST
  

Revision as of 08:38, 14 November 2006

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Nov 14, 2006 at 8am SFO / 10.00am Rochester / 11.00pm Toronto / 4pm London / 5pm Salzburg
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Attendees

  • IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams
  • Tradescape - Lothar Werzinger

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Agenda

C'mon and celebrate!

  • RSE 1.0 is released - just in time
  • What did we accomplish in the past year?
    • Created infrastructure - project, website, wiki, mailing list, newsgroup, bugzilla, processes for everything
    • Got all the code through legal review, implemented nightly build system
    • Grew the community - contributors and users, 220 downloads on 1.0RC2; EclipseCon talk, upcoming tutorial
    • Refactored RSE (service/subsystem approach), implemented deferred queries
    • Added ssh and ftp subsystems, discovery component
  • In the past year: What did you like? What's the favorite thing you want to do next?
    • DaveD:
    • DaveM:
    • Kushal:
    • Javier:
    • Michael:
    • Ted:
    • Uwe:
    • Martin:
  • Martin to also make personal interviews regarding our processes, improvements, suggestions, bugzilla, testing etc.
  • Any Latest News?
    • Michael --
    • Ted --
    • Other News --

Top Priorities this week

  • Convert Downloaders to Contributors.
  • #1 - Being responsive - on Newsgroup, Mailinglist and bug reports. We'll probably get lots of new users as we have RSE 1.0. Let's nurture our user community and encourage them to become contributors in case they have requests. Make sure that E-Mail notifications are turned on for bugzilla (and probably also the Wiki FAQ etc.)
  • #2 - Plan RSE 1.0.1 and 2.0
  • #3 - Continue fixing bugs and improving documentation - Let's make sure that users who have problems with 1.0 can get a subsequent I-build as patch soon after. Let's make sure users get missing documentation wherever needed. Instead of answering a question by E-Mail, let's fix the corresponding documentation or FAQ and point the users to it.
    • Build Schedule: Will do an I-build on thursday at 8am Ottawa every week. Should we call it M-build?

Upcoming Work

  • Triage your assigned Bugs - Bug Process Page
    • Assign Target Milestones: 1.0.1 or 2.0 to indicate committed fixes; --- for yet unknown
    • Status NEW --> ASSIGNED
    • Bugzilla: When fixing a bug, please add a short note where it was fixed, e.g. "Fixed in DStoreRemoteFile". This helps tremendously to find and understand the fix, in case it should be needed again later
  • Start IBM and EMO review process for Montavista SSH Processes, User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD)
  • Start creating Unit Tests, Testing feature (DaveD, Uwe)
  • RSE 2.0 Planning - Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan
  • DSDP/TM/Code Ownership

Communications

  • Upcoming Milestones:
    • RSE 1.0.1 -- December 15, 2006 (4 weeks from now!)
    • RSE 2.0M4 (with Europa M4) -- January 4, 2007 (3 weeks later)
      • Build system needs to be switched from 3.2.1 based build to Europa build after Dec.15 -- Ted?
    • For more Europa dates, see the Europa Simultaneous Release page
  • API changes: we'll not introduce any api changes between 1.0 and 1.0.1; instead, DOCUMENT the APIs, along the way we'll see what needs to be improved. Prepare for API changes soon after 1.0.1
  • Change Requests
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
    • US Thanksgiving - End of November
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Bug Triage. Edit Code Ownership. Submit 3 CQs to IPZilla; JUnit tests;
  • DaveM - Enter Resume into www.eclipsecon.org; Bug Triage.
  • Kushal - Bug Triage.
  • Martin - Work on 2.0 project plan; TM FAQ on the Wiki; Bug Triage.
  • Javier - Bug Triage. Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed and works
  • Ted - Make the Build ready for Europa
  • Michael - Terminalview

Next Meeting