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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 13-Mar-2007

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday Mar 13, 2007 at 1600 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
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UK National 08712460713
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MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.


  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).


  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site

News & Review Action Items

Martin 100% 70%
DaveD 100% 100%
DaveM 50% 50%
Kushal 50% 50%
Javier 50%
Ted 0% 0%
Uwe 5% 5%
Michael 20%

Upcoming Work

  • See also Last Meeting for notes
  • Top priority is getting API things done for M6. Plan items are currently more important than bug priorities. We have 3 weeks to go.
    • 170909 (DaveD, Kushal) User Actions: Still waiting for IP review. Found many icons related to UA and import/export in rse.ui which will need to be moved.
    • 170923 (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting: rse.ui/plugin.xml/systemTypes need to go to core
    • 170932 (DaveD) Default Persistence Provider:
    • 170936 (DaveD) Macintosh - machine for unittests? - AI Kushal
    • 170926 (DaveM) Improve IFileService: mostly done; Returnvalue for copy; Streams on the Subsystem Layer - Kushal AI's for 2 bugs
    • 150498 (Javier) More service-oriented; Multiple subsystems of the same kind - extenders ok? Discovery? "No subsystems"? 176490 new wizard request, see also "Improve SystemType" below
    • 170911 (Javier) Discovery:
      • Not discussed since Javier is not here
    • 170916 (Kushal) EFS
    • 163820 (Kushal) Encodings - AI UnitTests
    • 170915 (Martin) Adopt 3.3 Concepts: Jsch -> switch to Platform I-builds?
    • 170922 (Martin) Optimize RSE API: ISystemRegistry
    • 170910 (Martin) Integrate Terminal -
    • 170918 (Martin) Improve SystemType and Wizard: Replace Name by IRSESystemType wherever possible, but keep it for now in Persistence and if() queries -> these are implementation details later, even replacing Name by Properties since the systemType does have Properties already
  • Other API things not directly marked as plan item
    • 173042 Improved / pluggable Refresh:
      • Subsystems must be able to refresh without flickering and without losing selection - systemView contents must remain until updated results are in the model and a refresh event comes from the model. Selection must be maintained wherever possible.
    • 166338 Asynchronous Callbacks
    • expandTo() API for the RSE System View - Events are not sufficient: due to lazy evaluation only one level works. Want a TreePath to expand
    • 170922 (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal"
  • Other Business
    • Cleanup: If we want to run the JDT Cleanup wizard to bring our code to Eclipse Standards, we better do so before M6 since we want to more closely monitor code changes after M6... or is it sufficient for M7? Copyright Wizard to run for M7.
    • 170915 (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
    • add unit tests for all new or modified API

Other Stuff to Do

  • 1. API Improvements
    • retargetable actions/commands instead of actionsets;
  • 2. Play well with the Platform
    • capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
  • 3. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
  • 4. New Features
    • Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
  • 5. Cleanup/Optimization
    • Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
    • Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, and once we have Capabilities: have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
      • Move org.eclipse.rse.connectorservice.local into org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core
      • org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core (collapse files.core, processes.core, shells.core)
      • org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.dstore (collapse files.dstore, processes.dsore, shells.dstore)
  • Build Process Improvements
    • Orbit bundles to be added differently
    • Unittests to run every night (Ted's scripts)
    • Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
  • 174945 General code cleanup - get rid of unused icons, comments, properties
  • Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it
  • Please continue on Compiler Warnings


  • Europa Requirements
    • Avoiding non-API from other projects
      • AI Martin create bugzilla against CDT
    • Update Wiki to explain whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
  • For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M6) -- 54 right now
  • Change Requests
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Remove RSE Performance Logging;
  • DaveM - Refresh; Bugs & Unit tests
  • Kushal - EFS, Subsystem Bugs, Encoding Tests; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Martin - Orbit changes; Website updates (M5); Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
  • Javier - Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Ted -
  • Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
  • Uwe -

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