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=== Upcoming Work ===
 
=== Upcoming Work ===
* Update on '''Plan items''':
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* See also [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 28-Feb-2007#Upcoming_Work|Last Meeting]] for notes
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170909 170909] (DaveD) User Actions: Merging into RSE - tough part is integrating Persistence with the new Persistence Manager (3-4 days); then, testing & fixing & unittests (3-4 days); DaveD with help from Kushal
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* '''Top priority''' is getting API things done for M6. Plan items are currently more important than bug priorities. We have 3 weeks to go.
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170923 170923] (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting: DaveD until EMO Review is done for UA, most critical right now; DaveD has a plan, can do it alone
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170909 170909] (DaveD, Kushal) User Actions: Still waiting for IP review. Found many icons related to UA and import/export in rse.ui which will need to be moved.
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170932 170932] (DaveD) Default Persistence Provider: will need some minor API changes, mostly additions; try to finish for M6, if things go wrong M7 is also OK
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170923 170923] (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting: rse.ui/plugin.xml/systemTypes need to go to core
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170936 170936] (DaveD) Macintosh - machine for unittests?
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170932 170932] (DaveD) Default Persistence Provider:  
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170926 170926] (DaveM) Improve IFileService: mostly done; Returnvalue for copy; Streams for dstore; Streams on the Subsystem Layer
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170936 170936] (DaveD) Macintosh - machine for unittests? - '''AI Kushal'''
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150498 150498] More service-oriented; Multiple subsystems of the same kind - any architectural limitations? DaveM: There might be extenders having problems with multiple
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170926 170926] (DaveM) Improve IFileService: mostly done; Returnvalue for copy; Streams on the Subsystem Layer - '''Kushal AI's for 2 bugs'''
*** Martin: NewConnectionWizard whould allow for "No subsystems"; DaveD: want to be able to get it back later? Martin: not necessarily
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150498 150498] (Javier) More service-oriented; Multiple subsystems of the same kind - extenders ok? Discovery? "No subsystems"? [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=176490 176490] new wizard request, see also "Improve SystemType" below
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170911 170911] Discovery
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170911 170911] (Javier) Discovery:
 
*** Not discussed since Javier is not here
 
*** Not discussed since Javier is not here
 
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170916 170916] (Kushal) EFS
 
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170916 170916] (Kushal) EFS
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170918 170918] Improve SystemType and Wizard
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=163820 163820] (Kushal) Encodings - '''AI UnitTests'''
*** Kushal: Get rid of the name, better have Properties
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170915 170915] (Martin) Adopt 3.3 Concepts: Jsch -> switch to Platform I-builds?
*** DaveD: There is quite a lot of usage of the Name at the moment instead of ID; there might be some Persistence usage! This might require us to still keep the name for some time in order to maintain Workspace compatibility
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170922 170922] (Martin) Optimize RSE API: ISystemRegistry
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170922 170922] Optimize RSE API
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170910 170910] (Martin) Integrate Terminal -
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170918 170918] (Martin) Improve SystemType and Wizard: Replace Name by IRSESystemType wherever possible, but keep it for now in Persistence and if() queries -> these are implementation details later, even replacing Name by Properties since the systemType does have Properties already
  
* '''Top priority''' is getting API things done for M6. Plan items are currently more important than bug priorities.
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* '''Other API things''' not directly marked as plan item
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173042 173042] (Uwe) Improved / pluggable Refresh
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173042 173042] Improved / pluggable Refresh:
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*** Subsystems must be able to refresh without flickering and without losing selection - systemView contents must remain until updated results are in the model and a refresh event comes from the model. Selection must be maintained wherever possible.
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=166338 166338] Asynchronous Callbacks
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** '''expandTo()''' API for the RSE System View - Events are not sufficient: due to lazy evaluation only one level works. Want a TreePath to expand
 
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170922 170922] (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal"
 
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170922 170922] (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal"
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* '''Other Business'''
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** '''Cleanup''': If we want to run the JDT Cleanup wizard to bring our code to Eclipse Standards, we better do so before M6 since we want to more closely monitor code changes after M6... or is it sufficient for M7? Copyright Wizard to run for M7.
 
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170915 170915] (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
 
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170915 170915] (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
 
** add '''unit tests''' for all new or modified API
 
** add '''unit tests''' for all new or modified API
  
 
=== Other Stuff to Do ===
 
=== Other Stuff to Do ===
** '''1. API Improvements'''
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* '''1. API Improvements'''
*** SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands;  
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** retargetable actions/commands instead of actionsets;  
*** Asynchronous API/callbacks; How is the client informed about job completion?
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* '''2. Play well with the Platform'''
*** IHostShell changes for Terminal;
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** capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
** '''2. Play well with the Platform'''
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* '''3. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
*** retargetable actions/commands; capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
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* '''4. New Features'''
** '''3. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
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** Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
** '''4. New Features'''
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* '''5. Cleanup/Optimization'''
*** Terminal-in-rse; Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
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** Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
 
** Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
** Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
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** Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, and once we have Capabilities: have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
 
*** Move org.eclipse.rse.connectorservice.local into org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core
 
*** Move org.eclipse.rse.connectorservice.local into org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core
 
*** org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core (collapse files.core, processes.core, shells.core)
 
*** org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core (collapse files.core, processes.core, shells.core)
 
*** org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.dstore (collapse files.dstore, processes.dsore, shells.dstore)
 
*** org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.dstore (collapse files.dstore, processes.dsore, shells.dstore)
* Add Montavista shell processes subsystem
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* '''Build Process Improvements'''
 
** Orbit bundles to be added differently
 
** Orbit bundles to be added differently
** Unittests to run every night
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** Unittests to run every night (Ted's scripts)
 
** Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
 
** Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
** Copyright Year Changes
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* [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=174945 174945] General code cleanup - get rid of unused icons, comments, properties
* General code cleanup -- to do right after M4:
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* '''Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it'''
** Get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif, IBM_logo.gif
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* Please continue on Compiler Warnings
** Get rid of commented out source code
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** Get rid of unused properties (chkpii)
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=== Communications ===
 
=== Communications ===
 
* '''Europa Requirements'''
 
* '''Europa Requirements'''
 
** '''Avoiding non-API from other projects'''
 
** '''Avoiding non-API from other projects'''
*** AI create bugzilla against CDT
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*** '''AI Martin''' create bugzilla against CDT
** Update Wiki to explian whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
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** Update Wiki to explain whether SDK contains examples --> '''AI Martin''' wait for Platform and adapt
* For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
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* For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M6) -- 54 right now
* '''Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it'''
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* (done) '''Fix N-builds''' (second workspace, use Ted's scripts)
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* Please continue on Compiler Warnings
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* Change Requests
 
* Change Requests
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
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* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 28-Feb-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 28-Feb-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
 
* '''DaveD''' - Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Remove RSE Performance Logging;  
 
* '''DaveD''' - Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Remove RSE Performance Logging;  
* '''DaveM''' - Bugs & Unit tests
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* '''DaveM''' - Refresh; Bugs & Unit tests
* '''Kushal''' - EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
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* '''Kushal''' - EFS, Subsystem Bugs, Encoding Tests; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
* '''Martin''' - Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Migrate Commons.net to single-file-jar; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on [[TM and RSE FAQ]], improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
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* '''Martin''' - Orbit changes; Website updates (M5); Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on [[TM and RSE FAQ]], improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
 
* '''Javier''' - Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
 
* '''Javier''' - Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
 
* '''Ted''' -  
 
* '''Ted''' -  
 
* '''Michael''' - Terminal Performance Improvements
 
* '''Michael''' - Terminal Performance Improvements
* '''Uwe''' - Retargetable actions, Improved Refresh
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* '''Uwe''' -  
  
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Mar-2007]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=3&day=20&hour=17&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1700 UTC]
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* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Mar-2007]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=3&day=20&hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1600 UTC]
  
 
[[Category:DSDP/TM]]
 
[[Category:DSDP/TM]]

Revision as of 11:57, 13 March 2007

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday Mar 13, 2007 at 1600 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Attendees

  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Notes

  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site

News & Review Action Items

Martin 100% 70%
DaveD 100% 100%
DaveM 50% 50%
Kushal 50% 50%
Javier 50%
Ted 0% 0%
Uwe 5% 5%
Michael 20%

Upcoming Work

  • See also Last Meeting for notes
  • Top priority is getting API things done for M6. Plan items are currently more important than bug priorities. We have 3 weeks to go.
    • 170909 (DaveD, Kushal) User Actions: Still waiting for IP review. Found many icons related to UA and import/export in rse.ui which will need to be moved.
    • 170923 (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting: rse.ui/plugin.xml/systemTypes need to go to core
    • 170932 (DaveD) Default Persistence Provider:
    • 170936 (DaveD) Macintosh - machine for unittests? - AI Kushal
    • 170926 (DaveM) Improve IFileService: mostly done; Returnvalue for copy; Streams on the Subsystem Layer - Kushal AI's for 2 bugs
    • 150498 (Javier) More service-oriented; Multiple subsystems of the same kind - extenders ok? Discovery? "No subsystems"? 176490 new wizard request, see also "Improve SystemType" below
    • 170911 (Javier) Discovery:
      • Not discussed since Javier is not here
    • 170916 (Kushal) EFS
    • 163820 (Kushal) Encodings - AI UnitTests
    • 170915 (Martin) Adopt 3.3 Concepts: Jsch -> switch to Platform I-builds?
    • 170922 (Martin) Optimize RSE API: ISystemRegistry
    • 170910 (Martin) Integrate Terminal -
    • 170918 (Martin) Improve SystemType and Wizard: Replace Name by IRSESystemType wherever possible, but keep it for now in Persistence and if() queries -> these are implementation details later, even replacing Name by Properties since the systemType does have Properties already
  • Other API things not directly marked as plan item
    • 173042 Improved / pluggable Refresh:
      • Subsystems must be able to refresh without flickering and without losing selection - systemView contents must remain until updated results are in the model and a refresh event comes from the model. Selection must be maintained wherever possible.
    • 166338 Asynchronous Callbacks
    • expandTo() API for the RSE System View - Events are not sufficient: due to lazy evaluation only one level works. Want a TreePath to expand
    • 170922 (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal"
  • Other Business
    • Cleanup: If we want to run the JDT Cleanup wizard to bring our code to Eclipse Standards, we better do so before M6 since we want to more closely monitor code changes after M6... or is it sufficient for M7? Copyright Wizard to run for M7.
    • 170915 (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
    • add unit tests for all new or modified API

Other Stuff to Do

  • 1. API Improvements
    • retargetable actions/commands instead of actionsets;
  • 2. Play well with the Platform
    • capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
  • 3. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
  • 4. New Features
    • Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
  • 5. Cleanup/Optimization
    • Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
    • Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, and once we have Capabilities: have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
      • Move org.eclipse.rse.connectorservice.local into org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core
      • org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core (collapse files.core, processes.core, shells.core)
      • org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.dstore (collapse files.dstore, processes.dsore, shells.dstore)
  • Build Process Improvements
    • Orbit bundles to be added differently
    • Unittests to run every night (Ted's scripts)
    • Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
  • 174945 General code cleanup - get rid of unused icons, comments, properties
  • Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it
  • Please continue on Compiler Warnings

Communications

  • Europa Requirements
    • Avoiding non-API from other projects
      • AI Martin create bugzilla against CDT
    • Update Wiki to explain whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
  • For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M6) -- 54 right now
  • Change Requests
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Remove RSE Performance Logging;
  • DaveM - Refresh; Bugs & Unit tests
  • Kushal - EFS, Subsystem Bugs, Encoding Tests; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Martin - Orbit changes; Website updates (M5); Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
  • Javier - Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Ted -
  • Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
  • Uwe -

Next Meeting