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* IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
 
* IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
 
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
 
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams
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* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber (Michael Scharf n/a, Ted Williams n/a)
  
 
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
 
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
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| Martin  || 50% || || 50%
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| Martin  || 50% || RXTX improvements. Move RSE on M5. Making stuff "internal". || 50%
 
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|-
| DaveD  || 80% || || 80%
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| DaveD  || 80% || UI/Non-UI refactoring; roadblock finishing up today; UA:IPzilla expected later today || 10%
 
|-
 
|-
| DaveM  || 50% || || 50%
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| DaveM  || 50% || passing filter into getChildren || 50%
 
|-
 
|-
| Kushal  || 100% || || 100%
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| Kushal  || 100% || encodings; javier's bug || 80%
 
|-
 
|-
| Javier  || 50% || || 50%
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| Javier  || 50% || ftp passive mode; need to fix ui || 50%
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Ted    || 0% || || 0%
 
| Ted    || 0% || || 0%
 
|-
 
|-
| Uwe    || 0% || || 0%
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| Uwe    || 0% || dynamic systemTypes; subsystem<->systemtype association; new conn.wizard || 0%
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Michael || 20% || || 20%
 
| Michael || 20% || || 20%
 
|}
 
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* Growing Communities: Robert Norton doing Launch Actions; Oliver Hardt doing EFS; 1245 downloads of RSE 1.0.1
 +
* Getting the APIs right
  
 
=== Upcoming Work ===
 
=== Upcoming Work ===
* '''RSE New Connection Wizard Rework'''
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* '''Top priority''' this week is getting API things done for M5. Plan items are currently more important than bug priorities.
** Work started. Goal is to make the new connection wizard looking and behaving like standard Eclipse new, import or export wizards. This should and will include support of categories in the new connection dialog. Current newConnectionWizardDelegate extension point and implementation is duplicating more or less existing Eclipse wizard framework functionality (via WizardDialog.setWizard(...) and IWizardPage.getWizard()). Fallback to use as much of standard Eclipse interfaces and existing functionality as possible (IWizardNode, IWizardRegistry, IWizardDescription, IWizardCategory, WizardSelectionPage and related).
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=163820 163820] (Kushal) Encodings
** Anyone has a problem with reworking newConnectionWizardDelegate extension point to be a newConnectionWizard extension point contributing a standard IWizard??
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*** Code done, Test cases to be done
* '''Top priority''' this week is work on the feature "big rocks" in bugzilla, for [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]
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** ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173772 Bugzilla#173772]) '''RSE New Connection Wizard Rework'''
** Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial
+
*** Work started. Goal is to make the new connection wizard looking and behaving like standard Eclipse new, import or export wizards. This should and will include support of categories in the new connection dialog. Current newConnectionWizardDelegate extension point and implementation is duplicating more or less existing Eclipse wizard framework functionality (via WizardDialog.setWizard(...) and IWizardPage.getWizard()). Fallback to use as much of standard Eclipse interfaces and existing functionality as possible (IWizardNode, IWizardRegistry, IWizardDescription, IWizardCategory, WizardSelectionPage and related).
 +
*** Does any one has a problem with reworking newConnectionWizardDelegate extension point to be a newConnectionWizard extension point contributing a standard IWizard??
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173042 173042] (Uwe) Improved / pluggable Refresh
 +
*** WR can't live with refresh throwing away children and showing "pending".
 +
*** Unaffected nodes need to remain; when only properties are changed, nodes need to remain;
 +
*** Subsystems need to be more responsible for the Refresh policy to accomplish this
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170909 170909] (DaveD) User Actions & Import/Export
 +
*** Expect initial submission on ipzilla later today
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170923 170923] (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting
 +
*** Concentrate on bringing .core in one place so it can be refactored later
 +
*** OK for martin to continue on the IConnectorService thing, it should be fairly straightforward and self-contained
 +
*** Anonymous login for ftp is also associated with this;
 +
*** Dave will keep in touch and continue working from Florida, though not full-time
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170627 170627] (DaveM) ISystemFilter in SystemViewElementAdapter.getChildren()
 +
*** Tobias looking at a solution where SubSystem.resolveFilterString() returns wrapper objects which also hold a context
 +
**** Problem: Selection etc. will return the wrapper object, and not the model object. Also, ISVs would contribute against model objects and not the wrapper
 +
**** Doing this for Windriver now; looking at a solution that can be shared by RSE
 +
*** Idea from DaveD: Intercept the expand event, and construct an object that contains Element + Context for the Content Provider
 +
**** Context for IRemoteFile is Subsystem + Filter + Parentnode
 +
**** Don't want multiple model objects for the same physical thing any more
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170922 170922] (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal": SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
 +
*** DaveD: original idea of RSE was to make stuff convenient; now its good to make it internal
 +
*** AI: component owners to go ahead and make stuff internal
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170915 170915] (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
 +
*** (done) popupMenus and propertyPages removed; need migration docs, for testAttribute; need to think about what to do with ISV docs
 +
**** DaveD: Our examples should be complete. We should improve the example to show the list of attributes we can check for through the IActionFilter
 +
**** DaveM: Create a new enhancement request for that; Martin to do it
 +
**** Also check Javadoc of ISystemViewElementAdapter, IRemoteFileAdapter
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170916 170916] (Kushal) EFS
 +
*** Oliver Hardt looking at it; Kushal to look at limiting API as next task, then do the Streams for IFileService;
 +
*** DaveM: DStore Streams API: While downloading a file, open a separate stream to look at it while downloading?
 +
** Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial: fix bugs as needed
 +
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170832 170832] (Martin) Read-only setting on ssh - what about using EFS on the back-end? (dstore doesnt do streams)
 +
*** AI timestamp, ro-flags: already done for FTP, still TBD for ssh
 
** add '''unit tests''' for all new or modified API
 
** add '''unit tests''' for all new or modified API
* New '''Europa Requirements''' from [http://www.eclipse.org/org/councils/20070123PCMinutes.php Planning Council Meeting 23-Jan-2007]
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** Written ramp down policy by Feb. 23rd --> AI Martin: wait for what Platform does and adapt it
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=== Communications ===
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* '''Next Week is Milestone Week'''
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** Do the [[TM 2.0 M5 Testing]] on Tuesday this time (warmup I-builds on Monday)
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* '''Europa Requirements'''
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** (done) [[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa]]
 +
*** Replace "n PMC members" by "a PMC member + n committers". With that change, everybody is ok with making it public.
 +
** (done) Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender"
 
** '''Avoiding non-API from other projects'''
 
** '''Avoiding non-API from other projects'''
*** AI create bugzillas for getting rid of Platform Internal access and hook them up with a plan item; Europa requires that these are in the release notes and there is a plan for addressing these in the next major release
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*** AI create bugzilla against CDT; focus more towards M6
** Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender" --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
+
 
** Update Wiki to explan whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
 
** Update Wiki to explan whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
 
* For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
 
* For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
* [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]
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* '''Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it'''
** '''1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation'''
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* Please continue on Compiler Warnings
*** '''Make stuff internal'''
+
**** SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
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*** UI/Non-UI separation (Condition of Satisfaction: be able to do a headless launch; try to reduce number of plugins? - DaveM be able to use service layer without profiles, persistence etc.; DaveM could envision service layer as part of ECF or similar; put subsystem.files together with subsystem.files)
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*** Be able to do ssh non-ui only? Would need an API for password / passphrase prompting in RSE core.
+
*** SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands;
+
*** timestamp, ro-flags: still TBD for ssh and ftp
+
*** Streams for IHostShell, IFileService - upload already allows an InputStream; download will need new API; may be a problem for dstore since the agent "pushes" the file; ftp allows canceling the download
+
*** Asynchronous API/callbacks; How is the client informed about job completion? Event? Callback? Progressmonitor? - Progressmonitor is created by the job typically, so we have no control over the progress [could use a SubProgressMonitor]? Use Java5 Concurrency classes?
+
*** IHostShell changes for Terminal;
+
** '''2. Make EFS work'''
+
*** Kushal looking at it - problem is the strictness of resource locking / scheduling rules
+
*** What about putting EFS directly on top of IFileService without using the cache? Might avoid scheduling rules; might require further extensions of IFileService
+
** '''3. Play well with the Platform'''
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*** get rid of platform "internal" access; this may also mean getting rid of customized extension points for adding actions
+
*** retargetable actions/commands; capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
+
** '''4. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
+
** '''5. New Features'''
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*** Import/Export & User actions; Terminal-in-rse; Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
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* Think about '''limiting the API''': Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal".
+
** Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
+
** Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
+
* Add Montavista shell processes subsystem
+
* '''Fix N-builds''' (second workspace, use Ted's scripts)
+
** Orbit bundles to be added differently
+
** Unittests to run every night
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** Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
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** Copyright Year Changes
+
* '''Compiler Warnings'''
+
** Good progress, please continue. Most warnings are javadoc warnings now. See the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php#check_code Committer Howto] for settings
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*** 109 -> 113 -> 113 -> 3 connectorservice.dstore
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*** 176 -> 265 -> 161 -> 12 rse.core
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*** 474 -> 558 -> 558 -> 94 files.ui
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*** 637 -> 662 -> 662 -> 23 services (javadoc)
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*** 221 -> 250 -> 248 -> 27 subsystems.files.core
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*** 1622 -> 346 -> 293 -> 192 rse.ui (mostly javadoc)
+
* '''Quality'''
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** '''Docs are a high priority'''. Add ISV Javadoc where it is still missing or incorrect; review, and improve all docs
+
 
+
=== Communications ===
+
* General code cleanup -- to do right after M4:
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** Get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif, IBM_logo.gif
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** Get rid of commented out source code
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** Get rid of unused properties (chkpii)
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* Change Requests
 
* Change Requests
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
** DaveD going to Florida in February for a week
 
** DaveD going to Florida in February for a week
 +
** Kushal might be away Friday 23rd
 +
** Javier away Feb 27th - March 2nd
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
  
 
== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 6-Feb-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 6-Feb-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
* '''DaveD''' - Remove RSE Performance Logging; Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Bugzilla bug for User Actions Contribution until Jan.31st; Bugs & Unit tests;
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* '''DaveD''' - attach User Actions on IPZilla; UI/Non-UI Refactoring; Making stuff internal.
* '''DaveM''' - EclipseCon; Bugs & Unit tests; finish permission API; download Streams API;
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* '''DaveM''' - Passing Filter into getChildren; EclipseCon; Making stuff internal.
* '''Kushal''' - Encodings; EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
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* '''Kushal''' - Unit Tests for Encodings; Javier's bug; Download Streams API; Making stuff internal; EFS.
* '''Martin''' - EclipseCon tutorial; Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Migrate Commons.net to single-file-jar; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on [[TM and RSE FAQ]], improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
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* '''Martin''' - ISV docs for propertyPages and popupActions; Making stuff internal; Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; EclipseCon tutorial; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; create bugzilla against CDT.
* '''Javier''' - Check r/o flags and timestamps for ftp; FTP passive mode; Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
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* '''Javier''' - FTP passive mode; Improve SD; Making stuff internal.
 
* '''Ted''' -  
 
* '''Ted''' -  
 
* '''Michael''' - Terminal Performance Improvements
 
* '''Michael''' - Terminal Performance Improvements
* '''Uwe''' -
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* '''Uwe''' - newConnectionWizardDelegate.
  
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==

Latest revision as of 14:39, 13 February 2007

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Feb 13, 2007 at 1700 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Contents

[edit] Attendees

  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber (Michael Scharf n/a, Ted Williams n/a)

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

[edit] Notes

  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site

[edit] Latest News

Martin 50% RXTX improvements. Move RSE on M5. Making stuff "internal". 50%
DaveD 80% UI/Non-UI refactoring; roadblock finishing up today; UA:IPzilla expected later today 10%
DaveM 50% passing filter into getChildren 50%
Kushal 100% encodings; javier's bug 80%
Javier 50% ftp passive mode; need to fix ui 50%
Ted 0% 0%
Uwe 0% dynamic systemTypes; subsystem<->systemtype association; new conn.wizard 0%
Michael 20% 20%
  • Growing Communities: Robert Norton doing Launch Actions; Oliver Hardt doing EFS; 1245 downloads of RSE 1.0.1
  • Getting the APIs right

[edit] Upcoming Work

  • Top priority this week is getting API things done for M5. Plan items are currently more important than bug priorities.
    • 163820 (Kushal) Encodings
      • Code done, Test cases to be done
    • (Bugzilla#173772) RSE New Connection Wizard Rework
      • Work started. Goal is to make the new connection wizard looking and behaving like standard Eclipse new, import or export wizards. This should and will include support of categories in the new connection dialog. Current newConnectionWizardDelegate extension point and implementation is duplicating more or less existing Eclipse wizard framework functionality (via WizardDialog.setWizard(...) and IWizardPage.getWizard()). Fallback to use as much of standard Eclipse interfaces and existing functionality as possible (IWizardNode, IWizardRegistry, IWizardDescription, IWizardCategory, WizardSelectionPage and related).
      • Does any one has a problem with reworking newConnectionWizardDelegate extension point to be a newConnectionWizard extension point contributing a standard IWizard??
    • 173042 (Uwe) Improved / pluggable Refresh
      • WR can't live with refresh throwing away children and showing "pending".
      • Unaffected nodes need to remain; when only properties are changed, nodes need to remain;
      • Subsystems need to be more responsible for the Refresh policy to accomplish this
    • 170909 (DaveD) User Actions & Import/Export
      • Expect initial submission on ipzilla later today
    • 170923 (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting
      • Concentrate on bringing .core in one place so it can be refactored later
      • OK for martin to continue on the IConnectorService thing, it should be fairly straightforward and self-contained
      • Anonymous login for ftp is also associated with this;
      • Dave will keep in touch and continue working from Florida, though not full-time
    • 170627 (DaveM) ISystemFilter in SystemViewElementAdapter.getChildren()
      • Tobias looking at a solution where SubSystem.resolveFilterString() returns wrapper objects which also hold a context
        • Problem: Selection etc. will return the wrapper object, and not the model object. Also, ISVs would contribute against model objects and not the wrapper
        • Doing this for Windriver now; looking at a solution that can be shared by RSE
      • Idea from DaveD: Intercept the expand event, and construct an object that contains Element + Context for the Content Provider
        • Context for IRemoteFile is Subsystem + Filter + Parentnode
        • Don't want multiple model objects for the same physical thing any more
    • 170922 (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal": SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
      • DaveD: original idea of RSE was to make stuff convenient; now its good to make it internal
      • AI: component owners to go ahead and make stuff internal
    • 170915 (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
      • (done) popupMenus and propertyPages removed; need migration docs, for testAttribute; need to think about what to do with ISV docs
        • DaveD: Our examples should be complete. We should improve the example to show the list of attributes we can check for through the IActionFilter
        • DaveM: Create a new enhancement request for that; Martin to do it
        • Also check Javadoc of ISystemViewElementAdapter, IRemoteFileAdapter
    • 170916 (Kushal) EFS
      • Oliver Hardt looking at it; Kushal to look at limiting API as next task, then do the Streams for IFileService;
      • DaveM: DStore Streams API: While downloading a file, open a separate stream to look at it while downloading?
    • Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial: fix bugs as needed
    • 170832 (Martin) Read-only setting on ssh - what about using EFS on the back-end? (dstore doesnt do streams)
      • AI timestamp, ro-flags: already done for FTP, still TBD for ssh
    • add unit tests for all new or modified API

[edit] Communications

  • Next Week is Milestone Week
  • Europa Requirements
    • (done) TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa
      • Replace "n PMC members" by "a PMC member + n committers". With that change, everybody is ok with making it public.
    • (done) Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender"
    • Avoiding non-API from other projects
      • AI create bugzilla against CDT; focus more towards M6
    • Update Wiki to explan whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
  • For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
  • Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it
  • Please continue on Compiler Warnings
  • Change Requests
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
    • DaveD going to Florida in February for a week
    • Kushal might be away Friday 23rd
    • Javier away Feb 27th - March 2nd
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics

[edit] Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - attach User Actions on IPZilla; UI/Non-UI Refactoring; Making stuff internal.
  • DaveM - Passing Filter into getChildren; EclipseCon; Making stuff internal.
  • Kushal - Unit Tests for Encodings; Javier's bug; Download Streams API; Making stuff internal; EFS.
  • Martin - ISV docs for propertyPages and popupActions; Making stuff internal; Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; EclipseCon tutorial; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; create bugzilla against CDT.
  • Javier - FTP passive mode; Improve SD; Making stuff internal.
  • Ted -
  • Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
  • Uwe - newConnectionWizardDelegate.

[edit] Next Meeting