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* AI review | * AI review | ||
| − | ** | + | ** P3ML - Philippe is trying to get this through legal. |
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*** Last email: Philippe needs help getting it through legal. | *** Last email: Philippe needs help getting it through legal. | ||
| + | *** Doug suggested that we use the DSDP incubator for it. | ||
* Project Plans Schedule (review progress) | * Project Plans Schedule (review progress) | ||
| − | ** First draft in [[Development_Resources/Project_Plan|new format]] due: by August meeting | + | ** Project Plan XML Renderer is currently buggy, [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=project+plan+renderer&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= here] is a bugzilla query for all the bugs currently known |
| + | ** [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=dsdp.dd DD] | ||
| + | *** T&P to do - items are in XML, but they're not being rendered. Thinks he's done. | ||
| + | ** [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=dsdp.ercp eRCP] | ||
| + | *** Not there yet | ||
| + | *** '''Mark: Convert his eRCP plan slides to XML format by end of August''' | ||
| + | ** [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=dsdp.mtj MTJ] | ||
| + | *** Bugzillas in T&P to do | ||
| + | ** [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=dsdp.nab NAB] - skeleton only - Doug suggests bugzillas in | ||
| + | ** [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=dsdp.rtsc RTSC] | ||
| + | *** skeleton only | ||
| + | *** No bugzilla items yet. | ||
| + | ** [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=dsdp.tm TM] | ||
| + | *** bugzillas in T&P done, plan is complete. Working with Dave Carver and others on fixing and improving the plan renderer. | ||
| + | *** Target Milestone field: any bug signed to a concrete milestone are committed, future is deferred, --- is proposed. | ||
| + | *** Themes are named tags in bugzilla. | ||
| + | ** [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=dsdp.tml TmL] | ||
| + | *** Bugzillas in T&P to do | ||
| + | ** First draft in [[Development_Resources/Project_Plan|new format]] due: by August meeting (done, except eRCP) | ||
| + | ** Mostly complete: Aug 31 | ||
| + | ** PMC review: Sept 11 (next meeting) | ||
** Final version: Sept 15 | ** Final version: Sept 15 | ||
** Roadmap generation: Sept 30 | ** Roadmap generation: Sept 30 | ||
| − | ** '''All: | + | ** '''All: Finish plans by Aug 31 so we can review in Sept meeting.''' |
| − | * Committer voting | + | * Committer voting |
| − | ** | + | ** Martin suggested we establish some official guideline for committers. |
| + | ** Propose 3 good records of contribution: patches in bugzilla, good mailing list contributions. Ok if one of those records is from another project. | ||
* DSDP presentation to Board in September | * DSDP presentation to Board in September | ||
** See "Report Outline" in my separate email. | ** See "Report Outline" in my separate email. | ||
** What I need from each project: write up information for items 2-6 as they specifically relate to your project. | ** What I need from each project: write up information for items 2-6 as they specifically relate to your project. | ||
** This will be a written report, not a powerpoint. | ** This will be a written report, not a powerpoint. | ||
| + | ** '''ALL: Complete the draft by end of August. Word document.''' | ||
* EETimes India article | * EETimes India article | ||
| − | ** RTSC participation | + | ** RTSC participation: '''Dave: Check with Steve B. again on an EETimes article.''' |
| − | ** Anyone else? | + | ** Anyone else? No one is interested. |
| − | * ESE | + | * ESE - Sept 1 submission deadline |
** Uriel - eRCP/Expeditor/Titan | ** Uriel - eRCP/Expeditor/Titan | ||
| + | *** '''Mark: Check with Uriel to see if he's going to submit a paper.''' | ||
** TM/TCF - Martin, Michael | ** TM/TCF - Martin, Michael | ||
** Debugging - Pawel | ** Debugging - Pawel | ||
| − | ** MTJ - travel is not likely. '''Christian: Submit | + | ** MTJ - travel is not likely, but Christian will try. '''Christian: Submit an ESE talk - could cover MTJ and TmL or Eclipse in Mobile.''' |
| − | ** RTSC - dave is in a similar travel situation. '''Dave: Submit | + | ** RTSC - dave is in a similar travel situation. '''Dave: Submit an ESE talk.''' |
** NAB - probably can't go. | ** NAB - probably can't go. | ||
| − | * [[DSDP/Package|Packaging proposal]] | + | ** TmL - travel is not likely |
| + | * [[DSDP/Package|Packaging proposal]] (no update today) | ||
** The wiki page has ideas, roadmap, initial steps, and initial package list. | ** The wiki page has ideas, roadmap, initial steps, and initial package list. | ||
** Dave thinks it's a great idea. Dave would like to get RTSC into the package at some point in the future. | ** Dave thinks it's a great idea. Dave would like to get RTSC into the package at some point in the future. | ||
** Words of support from Doug. | ** Words of support from Doug. | ||
| − | * DSDP Incubator project (no progress) | + | * DSDP Incubator project (no progress or update today) |
| − | ** Unanimous approval to create the incubator. '''Doug | + | ** Unanimous approval to create the incubator. '''Doug: create the DSDP incubator and build the initial website.''' |
| − | * Project Updates | + | * Project Updates |
** DD | ** DD | ||
| − | *** | + | *** Working on 1.1 progressing as scheduled. |
| − | *** | + | *** Talking about contributing lots of DD to the CDT project. Discussions started. He would become a component lead in CDT. |
| − | ** | + | *** Pawel would ultimately like to find a home for all components do that we can EOL the DD project. |
| − | *** eRCP in OSGi standardization - approved at board. | + | ** eRCP |
| − | *** | + | *** Release review for eRCP 1.2 is next Wed. Charts approved. |
| + | *** Upcoming plan - S60 eRCP contribution at a 1.1 level. They are not committing to 1.2 level. | ||
| + | *** Nokia diminishing involvement | ||
| + | *** Maintenance release between 1.2 and 1.3. | ||
| + | *** Moving to RT in September | ||
| + | *** eRCP in OSGi standardization - approved at board. One caveat: OSGi cannot restrict what Eclipse can do. Mark working with OSGi now. | ||
| + | *** eRCP 1.3 - next July following the Ganymede release - will be in RT project by then. | ||
| + | *** Weekly build setup now. | ||
** MTJ | ** MTJ | ||
| − | *** | + | *** Nightly builds setup now. |
| − | + | ||
*** Working on a 0.9.5 release of MTJ. | *** Working on a 0.9.5 release of MTJ. | ||
*** EclipseME ramp-down likely in Q3, perhaps aligned with a 1.0 release. | *** EclipseME ramp-down likely in Q3, perhaps aligned with a 1.0 release. | ||
| + | *** Working on eliminating final legal dependencies. | ||
| + | *** RIM is lurking but not active yet. | ||
| + | *** Next step is to get Sybase more formally involved. | ||
** NAB | ** NAB | ||
| − | *** | + | *** Still working on Japanese localization. |
| − | + | *** Japanese bugzilla - Bugzilla 3.2 | |
| − | *** Japanese bugzilla. | + | |
** RTSC | ** RTSC | ||
| − | *** | + | *** Finished major internal release. |
| − | *** | + | *** Project-specific wiki via a vserver. All internal wiki docs transferred over. |
| − | *** | + | *** Next step: IP review and then code transfer. |
| − | *** | + | *** '''Dave: Contact Eclipse legal about best terms of use for their vserver wiki.''' |
| + | *** Future discussion: Rights for who can modify the wiki. | ||
** TM | ** TM | ||
| − | *** | + | *** Lots of planning work this time. |
| − | *** | + | *** Project is going well. Lots of community requests. TCF is also seeing some uptake now. AnywhereTech, MontaVista |
| − | *** | + | *** GSoC student is making slow, but good progress. |
| − | ** | + | *** Releng - Nick Boldt is working on moving viewCVS to project dash (among other things). This will be one officially copy, which will allow access from the main web site. Nick is working on a vmware image for automated builds. |
| − | *** | + | *** Martin is the chair of the AC now |
| − | *** | + | **** 1 member from each strategic member, 1 PMC rep, plus appointed folks. |
| − | *** | + | **** Council that you can approach with your questions. Lots of mentoring and experience possibilities. |
| − | *** | + | ** TmL (updated from an email) |
| − | *** | + | *** https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=236205 |
| − | *** | + | *** Preparing for TmL 0.1 Release for September 2008 release. |
| − | *** We have a | + | *** Fabio is moving the project source code from CVS to SVN prior to the 0.1 release. As part of this change, he is removing some deprecated sources that are no longer used. He will modify the automated build scripts and the update site accordingly. |
| + | *** We have a project plan with milestone dates for being on the June 2009 train release. The plan is in XML format on eclipse.org. The Eldorado team in Brazil are working toward these dates. | ||
| + | *** Motorola is currently integrating TmL into their commercial MOTODEV Studio product(s). Should be finished in October with some code contributions coming into TmL from the Studio teams. | ||
| + | *** Otavio has completed the /proc filesystem proof-of-concept using meminfo. He is currently working on the 'top' command. Once he is done with these two, he will work on providing extension points for other developers to add to this feature. This would be a good place for interns and Summer of Code participants to interact with an Eclipse project. | ||
| + | *** We would like to nominate Yu-Fen Ko from MontaVista as a committer once TmL 0.1 is released, based on her contributions to the project. However, she will then be on maternity leave starting some time this fall. The question is how to have her as a committer status "on hold" until she returns after the start of the year. | ||
| + | *** Eric and Christian presenting TmL later today (Thursday) at Linux World in SFO. | ||
* Next Meeting: Sept 11 (I have a conflict on Sept 4). | * Next Meeting: Sept 11 (I have a conflict on Sept 4). | ||
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* (Info) Search CVS | * (Info) Search CVS | ||
** Here is a general description of [http://wiki.eclipse.org/Search_CVS SearchCVS] | ** Here is a general description of [http://wiki.eclipse.org/Search_CVS SearchCVS] | ||
| − | ** Here is the [http:// | + | ** Here is the [http://dsdp.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/searchcvs.php TM Page] to try it out live -- only works on dsdp.eclipse.org right now, the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/searchcvs.php www.eclipse.org version] isnt granted access to the database |
** Here are the notes about [http://wiki.eclipse.org/Releng_SVN_Support Subversion] | ** Here are the notes about [http://wiki.eclipse.org/Releng_SVN_Support Subversion] | ||
Latest revision as of 14:13, 7 August 2008
Time
Dial-in Info
- US: 800-741-0846
- International: 706-679-9532
- Passcode: 7817182169#
Invited Attendees
- Eric Cloninger
- Doug Gaff
- Christian Kurzke
- Shigeki Moride
- Martin Oberhuber
- Pawel Piech
- Mark Rogalski
- Dave Russo
New Business
- AI review
- P3ML - Philippe is trying to get this through legal.
- Last email: Philippe needs help getting it through legal.
- Doug suggested that we use the DSDP incubator for it.
- P3ML - Philippe is trying to get this through legal.
- Project Plans Schedule (review progress)
- Project Plan XML Renderer is currently buggy, here is a bugzilla query for all the bugs currently known
- DD
- T&P to do - items are in XML, but they're not being rendered. Thinks he's done.
- eRCP
- Not there yet
- Mark: Convert his eRCP plan slides to XML format by end of August
- MTJ
- Bugzillas in T&P to do
- NAB - skeleton only - Doug suggests bugzillas in
- RTSC
- skeleton only
- No bugzilla items yet.
- TM
- bugzillas in T&P done, plan is complete. Working with Dave Carver and others on fixing and improving the plan renderer.
- Target Milestone field: any bug signed to a concrete milestone are committed, future is deferred, --- is proposed.
- Themes are named tags in bugzilla.
- TmL
- Bugzillas in T&P to do
- First draft in new format due: by August meeting (done, except eRCP)
- Mostly complete: Aug 31
- PMC review: Sept 11 (next meeting)
- Final version: Sept 15
- Roadmap generation: Sept 30
- All: Finish plans by Aug 31 so we can review in Sept meeting.
- Committer voting
- Martin suggested we establish some official guideline for committers.
- Propose 3 good records of contribution: patches in bugzilla, good mailing list contributions. Ok if one of those records is from another project.
- DSDP presentation to Board in September
- See "Report Outline" in my separate email.
- What I need from each project: write up information for items 2-6 as they specifically relate to your project.
- This will be a written report, not a powerpoint.
- ALL: Complete the draft by end of August. Word document.
- EETimes India article
- RTSC participation: Dave: Check with Steve B. again on an EETimes article.
- Anyone else? No one is interested.
- ESE - Sept 1 submission deadline
- Uriel - eRCP/Expeditor/Titan
- Mark: Check with Uriel to see if he's going to submit a paper.
- TM/TCF - Martin, Michael
- Debugging - Pawel
- MTJ - travel is not likely, but Christian will try. Christian: Submit an ESE talk - could cover MTJ and TmL or Eclipse in Mobile.
- RTSC - dave is in a similar travel situation. Dave: Submit an ESE talk.
- NAB - probably can't go.
- TmL - travel is not likely
- Uriel - eRCP/Expeditor/Titan
- Packaging proposal (no update today)
- The wiki page has ideas, roadmap, initial steps, and initial package list.
- Dave thinks it's a great idea. Dave would like to get RTSC into the package at some point in the future.
- Words of support from Doug.
- DSDP Incubator project (no progress or update today)
- Unanimous approval to create the incubator. Doug: create the DSDP incubator and build the initial website.
- Project Updates
- DD
- Working on 1.1 progressing as scheduled.
- Talking about contributing lots of DD to the CDT project. Discussions started. He would become a component lead in CDT.
- Pawel would ultimately like to find a home for all components do that we can EOL the DD project.
- eRCP
- Release review for eRCP 1.2 is next Wed. Charts approved.
- Upcoming plan - S60 eRCP contribution at a 1.1 level. They are not committing to 1.2 level.
- Nokia diminishing involvement
- Maintenance release between 1.2 and 1.3.
- Moving to RT in September
- eRCP in OSGi standardization - approved at board. One caveat: OSGi cannot restrict what Eclipse can do. Mark working with OSGi now.
- eRCP 1.3 - next July following the Ganymede release - will be in RT project by then.
- Weekly build setup now.
- MTJ
- Nightly builds setup now.
- Working on a 0.9.5 release of MTJ.
- EclipseME ramp-down likely in Q3, perhaps aligned with a 1.0 release.
- Working on eliminating final legal dependencies.
- RIM is lurking but not active yet.
- Next step is to get Sybase more formally involved.
- NAB
- Still working on Japanese localization.
- Japanese bugzilla - Bugzilla 3.2
- RTSC
- Finished major internal release.
- Project-specific wiki via a vserver. All internal wiki docs transferred over.
- Next step: IP review and then code transfer.
- Dave: Contact Eclipse legal about best terms of use for their vserver wiki.
- Future discussion: Rights for who can modify the wiki.
- TM
- Lots of planning work this time.
- Project is going well. Lots of community requests. TCF is also seeing some uptake now. AnywhereTech, MontaVista
- GSoC student is making slow, but good progress.
- Releng - Nick Boldt is working on moving viewCVS to project dash (among other things). This will be one officially copy, which will allow access from the main web site. Nick is working on a vmware image for automated builds.
- Martin is the chair of the AC now
- 1 member from each strategic member, 1 PMC rep, plus appointed folks.
- Council that you can approach with your questions. Lots of mentoring and experience possibilities.
- TmL (updated from an email)
- https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=236205
- Preparing for TmL 0.1 Release for September 2008 release.
- Fabio is moving the project source code from CVS to SVN prior to the 0.1 release. As part of this change, he is removing some deprecated sources that are no longer used. He will modify the automated build scripts and the update site accordingly.
- We have a project plan with milestone dates for being on the June 2009 train release. The plan is in XML format on eclipse.org. The Eldorado team in Brazil are working toward these dates.
- Motorola is currently integrating TmL into their commercial MOTODEV Studio product(s). Should be finished in October with some code contributions coming into TmL from the Studio teams.
- Otavio has completed the /proc filesystem proof-of-concept using meminfo. He is currently working on the 'top' command. Once he is done with these two, he will work on providing extension points for other developers to add to this feature. This would be a good place for interns and Summer of Code participants to interact with an Eclipse project.
- We would like to nominate Yu-Fen Ko from MontaVista as a committer once TmL 0.1 is released, based on her contributions to the project. However, she will then be on maternity leave starting some time this fall. The question is how to have her as a committer status "on hold" until she returns after the start of the year.
- Eric and Christian presenting TmL later today (Thursday) at Linux World in SFO.
- DD
- Next Meeting: Sept 11 (I have a conflict on Sept 4).
Old Business
- (Deferred) Introducing the VPP proposed project and Mark Burton
- (Info) Search CVS
- Here is a general description of SearchCVS
- Here is the TM Page to try it out live -- only works on dsdp.eclipse.org right now, the www.eclipse.org version isnt granted access to the database
- Here are the notes about Subversion