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* US: 800-741-0846 | * US: 800-741-0846 | ||
− | * International: 706-679- | + | * International: 706-679-9532 |
* Passcode: 7817182169# | * Passcode: 7817182169# | ||
== Invited Attendees == | == Invited Attendees == | ||
− | * Mark Burton | + | * Mark Burton (traveling) |
− | * Mika Hoikkala | + | * Mika Hoikkala (absent) |
* Martin Oberhuber | * Martin Oberhuber | ||
* Shigeki Moride | * Shigeki Moride | ||
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* Pawel Piech | * Pawel Piech | ||
* Doug Gaff | * Doug Gaff | ||
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== New Business == | == New Business == | ||
− | * Introducing the [http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/vpp/ VPP] proposed project and Mark Burton | + | * (Deferred) Introducing the [http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/vpp/ VPP] proposed project and Mark Burton |
* EclipseCon submissions | * EclipseCon submissions | ||
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** Allocation notes: I am trying to leave room for submissions that aren’t specifically DSDP, but are in the embedded/mobile space. VPP and RTSC are newly proposed projects (only one has been officially announced). | ** Allocation notes: I am trying to leave room for submissions that aren’t specifically DSDP, but are in the embedded/mobile space. VPP and RTSC are newly proposed projects (only one has been officially announced). | ||
** Doug S has offered a tutorial slot from CDT so that #3 below can be two slots long. | ** Doug S has offered a tutorial slot from CDT so that #3 below can be two slots long. | ||
+ | ** Feedback during meeting: everyone is happy with the allocations below and will submit when the submission system opens up. | ||
** Tutorials (3) | ** Tutorials (3) | ||
*** (1) Target Management (Martin, Dave) | *** (1) Target Management (Martin, Dave) | ||
*** (2) eRCP/eSWT (Gorkem, Mark) | *** (2) eRCP/eSWT (Gorkem, Mark) | ||
− | *** (3) Building a debugger on DSF and Flexible Hierarchy (Darin, Pawel) | + | *** (3) Building a debugger on DSF and Flexible Hierarchy (Darin, Pawel) - Will maybe use CDT's slot. |
** Long Talks (4) | ** Long Talks (4) | ||
− | *** (1) Tools for Mobile Linux (Christian) | + | *** (1) Tools for Mobile Linux (Christian/Maureen) - implementor focus |
*** (2) User focused talk / panel | *** (2) User focused talk / panel | ||
*** (3) User focused talk | *** (3) User focused talk | ||
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**** (4) NAB (Shigeki) | **** (4) NAB (Shigeki) | ||
*** Emerging technology | *** Emerging technology | ||
− | **** (5) TmL ( | + | **** (5) TmL (Mauren) - demo |
**** (6) VPP (Mark) | **** (6) VPP (Mark) | ||
**** (7) RTSC (proposed project lead) | **** (7) RTSC (proposed project lead) | ||
+ | **** (8) MTJ update (Gustavo) | ||
*** User focused talks (e.g. applications of eRCP, TM, NAB, OSGi in embedded, etc.) | *** User focused talks (e.g. applications of eRCP, TM, NAB, OSGi in embedded, etc.) | ||
− | |||
**** (9) User focused talk | **** (9) User focused talk | ||
**** (10) User focused talk | **** (10) User focused talk | ||
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** PC meeting in Reston next week | ** PC meeting in Reston next week | ||
** [http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Ganymede_Simultaneous_Release Ganymede] | ** [http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Ganymede_Simultaneous_Release Ganymede] | ||
− | ** | + | ** 13-15 are new this year |
− | ** eRCP | + | ** Martin - List looks OK except for #15 (plugin sizes in features), due to {{Bug|163406}}. Without the resolution of the bug, this is useless. #13 probably just means project should check that pack200 works, since it's automatic for the coordinated update site. #14 should be easy since the bugs are fixed. |
− | ** NAB? | + | ** Pawel - Requirements look good. Ted was ok with the requirements. |
+ | ** eRCP - Mark - difficult because they don't have the resources to keep up with milestones. | ||
+ | ** NAB - Shigeki. Hope to get on the train by M4. Don't want to use orbit. #1 test - how much testing do I need to do with other projects? Need to investigate 5,6,13,14,15. | ||
+ | ** TmL will try to release with the train but not participate. | ||
* Upcoming events | * Upcoming events | ||
** Mark: report on OSIM in Madrid. | ** Mark: report on OSIM in Madrid. | ||
+ | *** Mostly about using Linux on mobile devices. There were a few topics using Java code. My presentation went well. The slides are on the eRCP website. Couple of leads for eRCP project. | ||
** Doug/Martin/Pawel/Mark: [http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2007 Eclipse Summit Europe] wrap-up. | ** Doug/Martin/Pawel/Mark: [http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2007 Eclipse Summit Europe] wrap-up. | ||
− | *** Doug: embedded symposium [http://douggaff.blogspot.com/2007/10/eclipse-summit-europe-day-one-device.html summary]. Detailed notes to follow. One action item for Mark: desire for P3ML in eRCP. | + | *** Doug: embedded symposium [http://douggaff.blogspot.com/2007/10/eclipse-summit-europe-day-one-device.html summary]. Detailed notes to follow. One action item for Mark: desire for P3ML in eRCP. UGL (universal graphics library). eSWT sits on top of this. P3ML also does. |
+ | *** Martin: Europe seems very focused on modeling. One interesting talk was gEclipse (project for Grid Computing - wide area networking) - doesn't really cover parallel programming or debugging, it's about the distribution mechanics. Some potential usage of TM. | ||
+ | *** Pawel: Attendees were mixed: some people who really need the technology, and some who weren't familiar with the technology at all. Really noticed a need for the tutorial for EclipseCon. | ||
** Martin: Eclipse Now You Can wrap-up. | ** Martin: Eclipse Now You Can wrap-up. | ||
+ | *** Small conference and specific to France. Some managers from major French companies. | ||
+ | *** embedded Java compiler - potential contribution. | ||
** [http://www.ossummit.com/ OS Summit Asia] - 26-30 Nov | ** [http://www.ossummit.com/ OS Summit Asia] - 26-30 Nov | ||
*** Shigeki: do you need anything else from us? | *** Shigeki: do you need anything else from us? | ||
+ | *** Mark needs to send some revisions to Shigeki this week. | ||
** [https://developerdays.dev.java.net/ Java Developer Days] - 23-24 Jan | ** [https://developerdays.dev.java.net/ Java Developer Days] - 23-24 Jan | ||
*** eRCP paper from Gorkem? | *** eRCP paper from Gorkem? | ||
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* Project Updates | * Project Updates | ||
** DD | ** DD | ||
+ | *** Most of the activity is around DSF. On track for 1.0 in Ganymede. | ||
+ | *** The MI reference implementation needs to be evaluated to see if it will fit in CDT 5.0. | ||
** eRCP | ** eRCP | ||
− | *** GTK runtime contribution. | + | *** 1.0.3 maintenance release. |
+ | *** Working a lot on eRCP standardization. Will likely have to dual license the Eclipse code, because OSGi doesn't want to provide a specification under EPL. Will take this proposal forward at the next Eclipse Board meeting. In December, the Eclipse Board will vote. | ||
+ | *** GTK runtime contribution. Waiting on IBM legal approval. | ||
** MTJ | ** MTJ | ||
+ | *** Meeting later today. | ||
** NAB | ** NAB | ||
+ | *** Added some files to help build NAB. Doug S has been giving them feedback. | ||
** TM | ** TM | ||
+ | *** Maintenance and lots of bug fixes for the terminal. Next milestone is 2 weeks away. | ||
+ | *** TCF contribution is coming soon. | ||
** TmL | ** TmL | ||
− | *** | + | *** Internal code scan done. Ready to submit Eclipse CQ. |
+ | *** Working on continuous development approval. | ||
== Old Business == | == Old Business == |
Latest revision as of 13:12, 15 November 2007
Time
San Francisco (U.S.A. - California) | Friday, November 2, 2007 at 6:00:00 AM | UTC-7 hours PDT |
Austin (U.S.A. - Texas) | Friday, November 2, 2007 at 8:00:00 AM | UTC-5 hours CDT |
Boston (U.S.A. - Massachusetts) | Friday, November 2, 2007 at 9:00:00 AM | UTC-4 hours EDT |
Salzburg (Austria) | Friday, November 2, 2007 at 2:00:00 PM | UTC+1 hour CET |
Helsinki (Finland) | Friday, November 2, 2007 at 3:00:00 PM | UTC+2 hours EET |
Tokyo (Japan) | Friday, November 2, 2007 at 10:00:00 PM | UTC+9 hours |
Corresponding UTC (GMT) | Friday, November 2, 2007 at 13:00:00 | UTC |
Dial-in Info
- US: 800-741-0846
- International: 706-679-9532
- Passcode: 7817182169#
Invited Attendees
- Mark Burton (traveling)
- Mika Hoikkala (absent)
- Martin Oberhuber
- Shigeki Moride
- Christian Kurzke
- Mark Rogalski
- Pawel Piech
- Doug Gaff
New Business
- (Deferred) Introducing the VPP proposed project and Mark Burton
- EclipseCon submissions
- 2 weeks left until the submission deadline closes. It's very important to get the submissions in ASAP.
- Allocation notes: I am trying to leave room for submissions that aren’t specifically DSDP, but are in the embedded/mobile space. VPP and RTSC are newly proposed projects (only one has been officially announced).
- Doug S has offered a tutorial slot from CDT so that #3 below can be two slots long.
- Feedback during meeting: everyone is happy with the allocations below and will submit when the submission system opens up.
- Tutorials (3)
- (1) Target Management (Martin, Dave)
- (2) eRCP/eSWT (Gorkem, Mark)
- (3) Building a debugger on DSF and Flexible Hierarchy (Darin, Pawel) - Will maybe use CDT's slot.
- Long Talks (4)
- (1) Tools for Mobile Linux (Christian/Maureen) - implementor focus
- (2) User focused talk / panel
- (3) User focused talk
- (4) User focused talk
- Short Talks (10)
- What's new in Ganymede
- (1) Target Management (Martin)
- (2) Device Debugging (Pawel)
- (3) eRCP (Gorkem, Mark)
- (4) NAB (Shigeki)
- Emerging technology
- (5) TmL (Mauren) - demo
- (6) VPP (Mark)
- (7) RTSC (proposed project lead)
- (8) MTJ update (Gustavo)
- User focused talks (e.g. applications of eRCP, TM, NAB, OSGi in embedded, etc.)
- (9) User focused talk
- (10) User focused talk
- What's new in Ganymede
- Ganymede release train
- PC meeting in Reston next week
- Ganymede
- 13-15 are new this year
- Martin - List looks OK except for #15 (plugin sizes in features), due to bug 163406. Without the resolution of the bug, this is useless. #13 probably just means project should check that pack200 works, since it's automatic for the coordinated update site. #14 should be easy since the bugs are fixed.
- Pawel - Requirements look good. Ted was ok with the requirements.
- eRCP - Mark - difficult because they don't have the resources to keep up with milestones.
- NAB - Shigeki. Hope to get on the train by M4. Don't want to use orbit. #1 test - how much testing do I need to do with other projects? Need to investigate 5,6,13,14,15.
- TmL will try to release with the train but not participate.
- Upcoming events
- Mark: report on OSIM in Madrid.
- Mostly about using Linux on mobile devices. There were a few topics using Java code. My presentation went well. The slides are on the eRCP website. Couple of leads for eRCP project.
- Doug/Martin/Pawel/Mark: Eclipse Summit Europe wrap-up.
- Doug: embedded symposium summary. Detailed notes to follow. One action item for Mark: desire for P3ML in eRCP. UGL (universal graphics library). eSWT sits on top of this. P3ML also does.
- Martin: Europe seems very focused on modeling. One interesting talk was gEclipse (project for Grid Computing - wide area networking) - doesn't really cover parallel programming or debugging, it's about the distribution mechanics. Some potential usage of TM.
- Pawel: Attendees were mixed: some people who really need the technology, and some who weren't familiar with the technology at all. Really noticed a need for the tutorial for EclipseCon.
- Martin: Eclipse Now You Can wrap-up.
- Small conference and specific to France. Some managers from major French companies.
- embedded Java compiler - potential contribution.
- OS Summit Asia - 26-30 Nov
- Shigeki: do you need anything else from us?
- Mark needs to send some revisions to Shigeki this week.
- Java Developer Days - 23-24 Jan
- eRCP paper from Gorkem?
- EclipseCon 08 - 17-20 Mar
- Mark: report on OSIM in Madrid.
- Project Updates
- DD
- Most of the activity is around DSF. On track for 1.0 in Ganymede.
- The MI reference implementation needs to be evaluated to see if it will fit in CDT 5.0.
- eRCP
- 1.0.3 maintenance release.
- Working a lot on eRCP standardization. Will likely have to dual license the Eclipse code, because OSGi doesn't want to provide a specification under EPL. Will take this proposal forward at the next Eclipse Board meeting. In December, the Eclipse Board will vote.
- GTK runtime contribution. Waiting on IBM legal approval.
- MTJ
- Meeting later today.
- NAB
- Added some files to help build NAB. Doug S has been giving them feedback.
- TM
- Maintenance and lots of bug fixes for the terminal. Next milestone is 2 weeks away.
- TCF contribution is coming soon.
- TmL
- Internal code scan done. Ready to submit Eclipse CQ.
- Working on continuous development approval.
- DD
Old Business
- General stuff
- NAB: Feedback comes from WS community, which is why dev list is so quiet. All feedback is in Japanese. Bugzilla can't work because interface is in English, which is a problem. Doug to follow up with Bjorn and Denis
- DSDP Website - dynamic content
- eclipse.dsdp Newsgroup - dynamic content
- DSDP Info center
- Instructions
- eRCP, NAB, MTJ?
- AI: eRCP - work on posting info center docs after 1.0 release