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== Agenda ==
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== Call Info ==
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| Meeting Title:
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| '''Conference Call on Device Debugging'''
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|-
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| Date & Time:
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| Wednesday August 2, 2006 at 10am PST (immediately following TM call)
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|-
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| Primary International Dial-in:
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| '''+44 (0)1452 567588'''
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|-
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| USA Freephone Dial-In:
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| +1 (866) 6161738
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|-
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| UK National Dial-In:
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| 08712460713
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|-
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| Passcode:
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| '''0587322148 #'''
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|}
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== Agenda and Minutes ==
 
* Update on breakpoints & disassembly view meetings - Ewa
 
* Update on breakpoints & disassembly view meetings - Ewa
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** Editor/Disassembly: 
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*** Mikhail will research whether disassembly can subclass from editor part instead of view part. 
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*** Pawel demo'd WR's editor, and folks liked the look.
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** Breakpoint view sub-call
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*** Bugzilla entry: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152624
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*** TI will contribute what they've done so far
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*** Freescale will post specs
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*** Nokia will contribute "fancy breakpoint" capabilities
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** '''Pawel: review breakpoints and disassembly and make a proposal for integraiton with DSF to this group.''' 
 
* Wind River Debugger Services Framework (DSF) contribution - Pawel
 
* Wind River Debugger Services Framework (DSF) contribution - Pawel
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** See [http://dsdp.eclipse.org/help/latest/topic/org.eclipse.dd.dsf.doc/docs/dsf_white_paper.html DSF White Paper]
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*** Doug S is looking at this as the migration plan for CDT.  He would like to port the MI model to this as soon as possible, but let vendors migrate when they can.
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*** MI example (to be committed in the next day or so):  Uses CDI implementation of MI commands.
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*** Views: rely heavily on the flexible hierarchy in the platform views.  Pawel thinks we should implement the compatibility platform debug model for 3rd party integration by provide a way to customized the platform debug views using the flexible hierarchy.
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*** Next steps
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**** '''Everyone: Review DSF docs and review examples'''
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**** Feedback and questions on dd-dev: 1 month review with questions until
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**** Present at CDT conference?  Maybe some focused time for DD at this meeting.
 
* Other subgroup updates?
 
* Other subgroup updates?
* Action Item follow up
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** Views
** Update on TI and Debug View subgroup
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*** Pawel is happy with Darin's proposal.
** Comments on Darin's view policy
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*** Darin is waiting on PMC direction
** Update from Aaron on ARM and SPIRIT
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*** Might be possible to staff the work as patches in the DD project - '''Darin will update us at the next meeting.'''
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** Launch
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*** '''Alan will follow up with Pete'''
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*** Dobrin has a debug contribution around launch-less debugging.  Doug S recommended a bugzilla.
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** SPIRIT
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*** Aaron touched base with ARM and ATI, but still waiting to hear back.  '''Aaron will update us at the next meeting.'''
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*** Native parsing library vs. Java parsing?
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**** John: probably at the DE level (C++), but could also need to parse from Java.
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**** Doug: At the DE level, but we could also use both.
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**** Licensing plans?  Is EPL usable with C++?  May need to use Xerces (Apache) for XML parsing.
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**** Aaron is working on example API's for feedback.  Will follow up with some implementations.
 
* Next Meeting: Wed, Sept 6, 10 am PT
 
* Next Meeting: Wed, Sept 6, 10 am PT
  
 
== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
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* Doug Gaff, WR
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* Mark Melvin, AMI
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* Pawel Piech, WR
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* Ken Ryall, Nokia
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* Samantha Chan, IBM
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* Aaron Spear, Mentor
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* Darin Wright, IBM
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* Ted Williams, WR
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* Eva Matejska, PalmSource
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* Alan Boxall, IBM
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* Patrick C, TI
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* John Cortell, Freescale
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* Doug Shaeffer, QNX
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* Dobrin Alexiev, TI

Latest revision as of 14:08, 2 August 2006

[edit] Call Info

Meeting Title: Conference Call on Device Debugging
Date & Time: Wednesday August 2, 2006 at 10am PST (immediately following TM call)
Primary International Dial-in: +44 (0)1452 567588
USA Freephone Dial-In: +1 (866) 6161738
UK National Dial-In: 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

[edit] Agenda and Minutes

  • Update on breakpoints & disassembly view meetings - Ewa
    • Editor/Disassembly:
      • Mikhail will research whether disassembly can subclass from editor part instead of view part.
      • Pawel demo'd WR's editor, and folks liked the look.
    • Breakpoint view sub-call
    • Pawel: review breakpoints and disassembly and make a proposal for integraiton with DSF to this group.
  • Wind River Debugger Services Framework (DSF) contribution - Pawel
    • See DSF White Paper
      • Doug S is looking at this as the migration plan for CDT. He would like to port the MI model to this as soon as possible, but let vendors migrate when they can.
      • MI example (to be committed in the next day or so): Uses CDI implementation of MI commands.
      • Views: rely heavily on the flexible hierarchy in the platform views. Pawel thinks we should implement the compatibility platform debug model for 3rd party integration by provide a way to customized the platform debug views using the flexible hierarchy.
      • Next steps
        • Everyone: Review DSF docs and review examples
        • Feedback and questions on dd-dev: 1 month review with questions until
        • Present at CDT conference? Maybe some focused time for DD at this meeting.
  • Other subgroup updates?
    • Views
      • Pawel is happy with Darin's proposal.
      • Darin is waiting on PMC direction
      • Might be possible to staff the work as patches in the DD project - Darin will update us at the next meeting.
    • Launch
      • Alan will follow up with Pete
      • Dobrin has a debug contribution around launch-less debugging. Doug S recommended a bugzilla.
    • SPIRIT
      • Aaron touched base with ARM and ATI, but still waiting to hear back. Aaron will update us at the next meeting.
      • Native parsing library vs. Java parsing?
        • John: probably at the DE level (C++), but could also need to parse from Java.
        • Doug: At the DE level, but we could also use both.
        • Licensing plans? Is EPL usable with C++? May need to use Xerces (Apache) for XML parsing.
        • Aaron is working on example API's for feedback. Will follow up with some implementations.
  • Next Meeting: Wed, Sept 6, 10 am PT

[edit] Attendees

  • Doug Gaff, WR
  • Mark Melvin, AMI
  • Pawel Piech, WR
  • Ken Ryall, Nokia
  • Samantha Chan, IBM
  • Aaron Spear, Mentor
  • Darin Wright, IBM
  • Ted Williams, WR
  • Eva Matejska, PalmSource
  • Alan Boxall, IBM
  • Patrick C, TI
  • John Cortell, Freescale
  • Doug Shaeffer, QNX
  • Dobrin Alexiev, TI