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= Multicore Debug Workgroup Minutes of Meetings =
 
= Multicore Debug Workgroup Minutes of Meetings =
  
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== March 12th, 2013 ==
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== January 13th, 2015 ==
  
 
=== Attendees ===
 
=== Attendees ===
  
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# Phil Mason (Broadcom)
 
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# Marc Dumais (Ericsson)
 
 
# Alvaro Sanchez-Leon (Ericsson)
 
# Alvaro Sanchez-Leon (Ericsson)
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# Mikhail Khodjaiants (Mentor)
 
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# Vladimir Prus (Mentor)
 
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# Abeer Bagul (Tensilica)
 
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# Bill Swanson (Tilera)
 
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# Pawel Piech
 
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# Marc Khouzam (Ericsson)
 
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=== Minutes ===
 
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* EclipseCon and CDT Summit
 
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** Please update Summit
 
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* Planned for Kepler release
 
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** StepIntoSelection [https://bugs.eclipse.org/244865 Bug 244865]
 
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** Dynamic-printf [https://bugs.eclipse.org/400628 Bug 400628]
 
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** Multicore Visualizer filtering of cores/CPUs to reduce amount of visible information
 
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* Pin&Clone in platform [https://bugs.eclipse.org/145635 Bug 145635]
 
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** No longer planned for Kepler
 
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* Expression working sets [https://bugs.eclipse.org/372181 372181]
 
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** Pawel re-factored patch
 
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** After review there were many comments from platform that is delaying adoption
 
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** People interested must answer comments to try to move this forward
 
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** Can enhanced expressions be used for these use cases?
 
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*** Abeer will follow-up on this with his product people.
 
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*** Marc to look at Pawel's CDT fix for expression working sets to try it with Enhanced Expressions.  Persistence of the collapsed state should work with this patch.
 
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* Step into Selection [https://bugs.eclipse.org/244865 Bug 244865]
 
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** Alvaro is implementing this feature
 
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** First version will deal with the most common and simplest cases
 
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* Dynamic-printf [https://bugs.eclipse.org/400628 Bug 400628]
 
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**  Support for "Add breakpoint..." command for dprintf.  First step is to support if for tracepoints [https://bugs.eclipse.org/376116 Bug 376116]
 
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* Hardware breakpoints [https://bugs.eclipse.org/332993 Bug 332993]
 
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** We mentioned we could use a breakpoint type for hardware breakpoint and temporary bp
 
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** We could do the same for Tracepoints, but since tracepoints are a top-level breakpoint and not an attribute of a C/C++ breakpoint, this would need a lot of work.  Also, the property page for tracepoint is different because it has a passcount and no ignore count.
 
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** How should dynamic printf be implemented?  As a top-level bp like tracepoints, or as an attribute of breakpoints?  For reference, WindRiver had their implementation use a top-level breakpoint.
 
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** GDB has a setting to tell GDB to set a hardware breakpoint if it can and if not then set a software breakpoint.  This should be considered when dealing with hardware breakpoint support
 
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== February 12, 2013 ==
 
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=== Attendees ===
 
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# Phil Mason (Broadcom)
 
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# Marc Dumais (Ericsson)
 
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# Norman Yee (Analog Devices)
 
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# Mikhail Khodjaiants (Mentor)
 
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# Vladimir Prus (Mentor)
 
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# Abeer Bagul (Tensilica)
 
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# Bill Swanson (Tilera)
 
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# Pawel Piech
 
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# Marc Khouzam (Ericsson)
 
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=== Minutes ===
 
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* A extra conference call will be scheduled February 19th to discuss features for the Multicore Visualizer.  All are welcomed to call in.  Info will be posted on the list.
 
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* Pin&Clone in platform [https://bugs.eclipse.org/145635 Bug 145635]
 
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** Pawel will continue working on it
 
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** Plan is to make Pin&Clone a single action
 
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** Would be nice if people gave feeback on the branch which has this new way of handling things
 
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* Extend CDT launch to allow external profiling [https://bugs.eclipse.org/391608 Bug 391608]
 
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** All changes will be made in Linux Tools project, no need to change CDT
 
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* CPU usage shown in Multicore Visualizer [https://bugs.eclipse.org/396268 Bug 396268]
 
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* GDB Console synchronization
 
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** Memory changes synched with CDT [https://bugs.eclipse.org/397715 Bug 397715]
 
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** Reverse debugging enabled synched with CDT [https://bugs.eclipse.org/399163 Bug 399163]
 
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** Other new notifications planned such as: =traceframe-changed
 
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* Expression working sets [https://bugs.eclipse.org/372181 372181]
 
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** Pawel put Abeer's patch and put it on a branch with a bit of refactoring.
 
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** Pawel is playing around with automatic selection of working sets
 
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** If Pawel does not have enough time to continue playing around with it he will commit the feature as Abeer implemented it
 
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** Automatic selection would be nice and Abeer is also looking into it
 
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** Abeer will continue to work on it and post information on the bug
 
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* StepIntoSelection is being implemented for CDT [https://bugs.eclipse.org/244865 Bug 244865]
 
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* Marc K would like to try to add Dynamic printf to CDT
 
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** Breakpoint types would be used to provide this
 
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** The new bp type would be kept in DSF-GDB
 
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* Hardware breakpoint contribution [https://bugs.eclipse.org/332993 Bug 332993]
 
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** Mikhail is concerned that changing the breakpoint type to set a hardware bp is overkill
 
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** Another option would be to add a "Toggle Hardware Breakpoint" command, although that is not ideal either
 
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** We would like to provide this feature in CDT, and Mikhail might be able to post a patch
 
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== January 15th, 2013 ==
 
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=== Attendees ===
 
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# Phil Mason (Broadcom)
 
 
# Marc Dumais (Ericsson)
 
# Marc Dumais (Ericsson)
 
# Mikhail Khodjaiants (Mentor)
 
# Mikhail Khodjaiants (Mentor)
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# Vladimir Prus (Mentor)
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# Doug Schaefer (QNX)
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# Jeff Johnson (Red Hat)
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# Jeff Johnston (RedHat)
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# Abeer Bagul (Tensilica)
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# William Riley (Renesas)
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# Bill Swanson (Tilera)
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# Pawel Piech (Windriver)
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# Marc Khouzam (Ericsson)
 
# Marc Khouzam (Ericsson)
  
 
=== Minutes ===
 
=== Minutes ===
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* Assembly view vs Disassembly view
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* CDT Summit/CDT Day
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** Want to show assembly with source code without the use of the Debugger
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** CDT Summit wiki.  Please sign up.
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** How does CDT get access to the assembly code
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** CDT Day planned. 7 talks on different topics related to CDT
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** A dummy debug session hidden from the user can be used to fill the disassembly view
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* CDT 8.6 anything missing?
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** Jeff will open bug
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** Nothing major planned for the last week
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* Pin&Clone in platform [https://bugs.eclipse.org/145635 Bug 145635]
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* Register grouping committed. https://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/User/NewIn86#Register_grouping
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** Update for CDT to remove Pin&Clone buttons: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/398012 Bug 398012]
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** VarObjects for Registers would be interesting.
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** Terminate and restart should keep the Pin&Clone with this CDT patch
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** If time allows, Mikhail may have a look again.
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** Feature can be tested in a branch in the platform repo
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* All Debug JUnit tests running on HIPP using all of GDB >= 7.1
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** Would allow to use another 'agent' to provide info without a debugger
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** Local tests all pass: https://hudson.eclipse.org/cdt/job/debug-tests-master-all-gdb-versions/
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** Adds breadcrumb to the view when pinned
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** Remote tests down to 7 failures: https://hudson.eclipse.org/cdt/job/debug-remote-tests-master-all-gdb-versions/
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** No colors and no visual decorator in the Debug view, as CDT used to do
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* Older GDB support
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* Extend CDT launch to allow external profiling [https://bugs.eclipse.org/391608 Bug 391608]
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** In some cases, probably with more recent GCCs, GDB 7.0 cannot step over printf (and maybe other issues)
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** To see profiling buttons one must Customize Perspective and enable the "Profile" menu
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** We discussed and approved only supporting GDB 7.1 and higher
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** Profile configuration add a single Profile tab which give the user the possibility to choose between different available profile.
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** We won't remove the code supporting older GDBs but we won't work on making those work
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** Profile As... will now only show "Local C/C++ Application" and will default to the highest ranked available profiler
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** We will announce in N&N and make it part of the 8.6 review record
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** If no profiler is installed the profiling launch will show an error.
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* SWTBot testing for Debug/CDT https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/35988/
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* CPU usage shown in Multicore Visualizer [https://bugs.eclipse.org/396268 Bug 396268]
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** Proof of concept that provides one test.
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** Good progress, expect to push code next week
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** Marc K to review and commit very soon to get the infrastructure in
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* Expression working sets [https://bugs.eclipse.org/372181 372181]
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* LaunchBar will be part of Mars
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** Abeer will comment on bug
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** Doug will work on a CDT remote launch using o.e.remote
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** Pawel will look at it once Pin&clone is ok
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** Doug got request to have a UI for multiple launches working with the launch bar
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* GDB Console synchronization
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* Launch UI
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** Mikhail did the synchronization of breakpoints.  This needs GDB 7.4
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** Mikhail has started work on it again
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** GDB 7.6 will provide new MI notifications when data changes.
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** Marc K has pushed a feature for review, which uses the new =memory-changed event [https://bugs.eclipse.org/397715 Bug 397715]
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** Marc K plans on making use of other new notifications such as: =traceframe-changed, =record-started, =record-stopped
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= Older minutes of meeting =
 
= Older minutes of meeting =
  
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[[CDT/MultiCoreDebugWorkingGroup/calls/minutes/2014 | 2014 Minutes of meetings]]<br>
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[[CDT/MultiCoreDebugWorkingGroup/calls/minutes/2013 | 2013 Minutes of meetings]]<br>
 
[[CDT/MultiCoreDebugWorkingGroup/calls/minutes/2012 | 2012 Minutes of meetings]]<br>
 
[[CDT/MultiCoreDebugWorkingGroup/calls/minutes/2012 | 2012 Minutes of meetings]]<br>
 
[[CDT/MultiCoreDebugWorkingGroup/calls/minutes/2011 | 2011 Minutes of meetings]]<br>
 
[[CDT/MultiCoreDebugWorkingGroup/calls/minutes/2011 | 2011 Minutes of meetings]]<br>
 
[[CDT/MultiCoreDebugWorkingGroup/calls/minutes/2010 | 2010 Minutes of meetings]]<br>
 
[[CDT/MultiCoreDebugWorkingGroup/calls/minutes/2010 | 2010 Minutes of meetings]]<br>

Revision as of 14:42, 13 January 2015

Multicore Debug Workgroup Minutes of Meetings

January 13th, 2015

Attendees

  1. Alvaro Sanchez-Leon (Ericsson)
  2. Marc Dumais (Ericsson)
  3. Mikhail Khodjaiants (Mentor)
  4. Doug Schaefer (QNX)
  5. Jeff Johnston (RedHat)
  6. William Riley (Renesas)
  7. Marc Khouzam (Ericsson)

Minutes

  • CDT Summit/CDT Day
    • CDT Summit wiki. Please sign up.
    • CDT Day planned. 7 talks on different topics related to CDT
  • CDT 8.6 anything missing?
    • Nothing major planned for the last week
  • Register grouping committed. https://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/User/NewIn86#Register_grouping
    • VarObjects for Registers would be interesting.
    • If time allows, Mikhail may have a look again.
  • All Debug JUnit tests running on HIPP using all of GDB >= 7.1
  • Older GDB support
    • In some cases, probably with more recent GCCs, GDB 7.0 cannot step over printf (and maybe other issues)
    • We discussed and approved only supporting GDB 7.1 and higher
    • We won't remove the code supporting older GDBs but we won't work on making those work
    • We will announce in N&N and make it part of the 8.6 review record
  • SWTBot testing for Debug/CDT https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/35988/
    • Proof of concept that provides one test.
    • Marc K to review and commit very soon to get the infrastructure in
  • LaunchBar will be part of Mars
    • Doug will work on a CDT remote launch using o.e.remote
    • Doug got request to have a UI for multiple launches working with the launch bar
  • Launch UI
    • Mikhail has started work on it again

Older minutes of meeting

2014 Minutes of meetings
2013 Minutes of meetings
2012 Minutes of meetings
2011 Minutes of meetings
2010 Minutes of meetings

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