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* Pascal Rapicault, IBM, PDE Build, p2
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* Denis Roy, Eclipse Foundation, innocent bystander
* Denis Roy, Eclipse Foundation, innocent bystander
* Andrew Niefer, IBM, PDE Build, p2
== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==

Revision as of 18:10, 10 September 2008

Having a common build infrastructure at Eclipse.org is important and we're taking steps to get there.

The Europa Build Workshop in Portland in September 2006 was our first step; the post-Ganymede Build Workshop in Ottawa in June 2008 was the next step. This time, it's personal [1].

As experienced software developers, we all know that release engineering is an essential part of building high-quality frameworks and tools. Motivated by our desire to reduce the manual overhead of cross-project release engineering for the upcoming coordinated releases of Eclipse 3.5 and 4.0, it's time for another meeting of the minds.



Bjorn has suggested either the week of Oct 13 or 20, but these coincide with the Colorado Software Summit. Perhaps as long as 3 days, eg., Oct 13-15 or 15-17.


The event will most likely be held at the Eclipse Foundation offices in Ottawa [2].


  1. To agree on the shape and scope of the working system: what we want it to look like in all its glory, how projects will use it, how they'll interact with it, what the results will be, where they will be, what the inputs will be, how people will specify the inputs, etc.
  2. To agree on architecture: what we want the various pieces to do in the system.
  3. To assess where all the pieces of contributed code are today.
  4. To create a plan for moving from assessment (3) to architecture (2) in support of a working system (1).
  5. To spend the rest of the available time building the system (1).

Some discussion points may be:

  • do we move forward with "un-Modeling-ifying" and "un-vserver-ifying" the current Common Modeling Build to make it more Tools/Tech friendly?
  • do we replace web UI with Eclipse UI, eg., with Buckminster?
  • do we replace shell scripts w/ java & xml, again, eg., Buckminster?
  • do we try something completely different?

As with the previous Build Workshop, the real goal (5) is to get some concrete work done. That may include completing the GEF build system or creating a new variant for building another Tools project, such as VE (which hasn't had formal releases in years due to a shortage of devs (but no shortage of community interest)).


If you have had, or will have, build and/or release engineering responsibilities for an Eclipse project, please consider attending.

It is important for attendees to have real-world knowledge of their build system - this is not a meeting for managers, it's a workshop for do-ers. You are also welcome to attend if you have substantial related experience and a willingness to contribute to the workshop's goals.

How to register

Like the last one, this will be an informal event, but we'd like to know who's interested in attending. Please sign here with Name & Role and/or Responsibility:

  • Bjorn Freeman-Benson, Eclipse Foundation, organizer
  • Nick Boldt, Modeling Project Release Engineer, organizer
  • Pascal Rapicault, IBM, PDE Build, p2
  • Denis Roy, Eclipse Foundation, innocent bystander
  • Andrew Niefer, IBM, PDE Build, p2


Like any good EclipseCON tutorial, the workshop will start with talk, then move into actual hands-on coding. No more than half a day should be spent on discussion!


We intend come away with a working system that can be community tested and blogger approved [3]. A longer report will be linked here: Build Workshop 3: Build Harder With A Purpose/Report.

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