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| + | === Marcel: '''Update on Error Logging''' === | ||
| + | * Quite confident that everything will be fine until M2 | ||
| + | * Reporting bugs directly to bugzilla now - identified based on a fingerprint | ||
| + | ** Counting such multiple instances (some handler issues have been reported > 800 times already) | ||
| + | ** Marcel reported 15 issues - 5 marked as duplicate, 5 fixed, 5 not yet attended to | ||
| + | * Every committer can subscribe to the bugzilla component as soon as we have it | ||
| + | ** By "watching" the errorlog-inbox, or by subscribing to RSS | ||
| + | ** Could people subscribe to "their" ID's only somehow ? | ||
| + | * Any auto-reported bug can be used as the base for creating "cloned" bugs in the projects / components | ||
| + | * When the "tracking bug" is fixed in bugzilla, the reporter could read out the status and even report back to the user | ||
| + | * '''Request:''' please provide feedback and make suggestions | ||
| + | ** Right now, the review is done by Marcel ... but hope that project committers will step up once their plugin ID's are reported | ||
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=== Review of Last Meeting === | === Review of Last Meeting === | ||
Revision as of 11:11, 11 September 2014
| Meeting Title: | Architecture Council Monthly Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Thursday September 11, 2014 at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin attention DST change HTML |  iCal
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| Dial-in: | Let's use the Foundation's Asterisk setup for this call:
Participant conference extension: 701 then enter pin: 51968
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Contents
Attendees
All AC Members are invited.
- PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
| BIRT: | |
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| DTP: | Brian Payton | |
| Eclipse: | |
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| Modeling: | |
Eike Stepper |
| Mylyn: | Steffen Pingel | |
| RT: | |
Tom Watson |
| SOA: | |
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| Technology: | |
Wayne Beaton |
| Tools: | Doug Schaefer | |
| WTP: | Chuck Bridgham | |
All Attendees
- In attendance: Marcel Bruch, Maximilian Kögel, Steffen Pingel, Martin O, Denis Roy, Michael Scharf, Eike Stepper
- Regrets: Neil Hauge
Agenda / Notes
- Feel free to edit, but not during the call!
Marcel: Update on Error Logging
- Quite confident that everything will be fine until M2
- Reporting bugs directly to bugzilla now - identified based on a fingerprint
- Counting such multiple instances (some handler issues have been reported > 800 times already)
- Marcel reported 15 issues - 5 marked as duplicate, 5 fixed, 5 not yet attended to
- Every committer can subscribe to the bugzilla component as soon as we have it
- By "watching" the errorlog-inbox, or by subscribing to RSS
- Could people subscribe to "their" ID's only somehow ?
- Any auto-reported bug can be used as the base for creating "cloned" bugs in the projects / components
- When the "tracking bug" is fixed in bugzilla, the reporter could read out the status and even report back to the user
- Request: please provide feedback and make suggestions
- Right now, the review is done by Marcel ... but hope that project committers will step up once their plugin ID's are reported
Review of Last Meeting
- Architecture Council/Meetings/June 12 2014
- Still open items moved to #Action_Items
New Topics
- Welcome new AC members
- Wayne: bug 441637 Maven Repo organization for LocationTech (Guest Speaker: Jody Garnett)
Denis: departure of Thanh Ha, release engineer
- 1.5 more weeks to wrap up at Eclipse.org
- DavidW: Might encourage Thanh to send out a "goodbye message" himself
- Martin: Might combine such a message with a call to the Community for joining some "learning experience" with Thanh ... perhaps like a "CBI seminar" ?
- AI Denis good idea, think about drafting a message
- Good news is that CBI is in a MUCH better state now than before Thanh joined ... basically it "just works" now
- Denis: CBI is a real project, there's also a mailing list...
Marcel: capturing stack traces
- Calling Home policy, send stack traces automatically proposed on cross-project and epp-dev mailing lists
- Maybe anonymize stack traces ... could this be integrated into Mars milestone builds
- Wayne: involves some investment in resources... would be a waste if wouldn't be used, thus request general buy-in from the AC
- Multiple stages: (1) buy-in, (2) legal review, (3) roll out for simrel train ASAP eg M2, (4) around M5 look back about whether it was useful
- Marcel: Log Listener in errorlog view; any backtraces from org.eclipse sent to a vserver
- Tom: This would not be in Platform, but on top of the Platform (EPP)
- Martin: Sounds very valuable, and nicely complements the Eclipse Platform Plan item Surface more options on the Tracing preference page plan item
- David W: Sounds like a very valuable tool even if only for committers
- David Williams: UDC created tons of data but had no way analyzing it .. is the analysis part figured out ?
- Marcel: Look for (plugin|errorcode) combinations that occur often, but such analysis will be manual work (on behalf of Marcel, eg send E-Mails)
- RESOLUTION Wayne happy to move forward, taking the next step with Legal
- Marcel: Where to report progress ?
- Wayne: cross-project would have the broadest audience.
General Topics
- New AC Member candidates
- Eclipse Infrastructure - git, Gerrit, Maven, Hudson, Bugzilla, ...
- Updates from the Board or the EMO
Action Items
- No new action items.
- Cleaned up old action items, see Architecture Council/Meetings/February 10 2011 for old stuff
- (old) Tim write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
- (old) Martin revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
- (old) Martin bug 315210 Make the AC mailing list open / moderated
Next Meeting
- Architecture Council/Meetings/September 11 2014