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* '''EclipseCon''' - any architecture related talks planned? | * '''EclipseCon''' - any architecture related talks planned? | ||
** Martin wants to do an API Tutorial, anybody want to join? | ** Martin wants to do an API Tutorial, anybody want to join? | ||
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| + | * Kim: '''Platform Builds and Tests at Eclipse.org''' - anybody got a Mac they could donate? | ||
| + | ** Test parallelization on multiple machines all done by Hudson... test-job for each target arch kicked off as soon as the main build is done | ||
* Maven and Group ID | * Maven and Group ID | ||
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| + | * Hudson reliability | ||
* {{bug|324125}} architecture diagrams - [http://www.eclipse.org/org/councils/roadmap_v2_0/AC_v2_0/index.php 2006 version] - relationship to e4 ? | * {{bug|324125}} architecture diagrams - [http://www.eclipse.org/org/councils/roadmap_v2_0/AC_v2_0/index.php 2006 version] - relationship to e4 ? | ||
* Build systems requirements - Antoine, Dave C | * Build systems requirements - Antoine, Dave C | ||
| + | ** PDE Build, Tycho, Athena, Buckminster, b3 ... ? | ||
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| + | * IP Logs - Martin and Wayne | ||
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* '''News from the Board, EMO and Councils''' | * '''News from the Board, EMO and Councils''' | ||
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* PC / Release Train Relationship to Eclipse 4.0 | * PC / Release Train Relationship to Eclipse 4.0 | ||
| − | ** Martin: TM/RSE runs on Eclipse 4.1m3 | + | ** Martin: TM/RSE runs on Eclipse 4.1m3 ... encourage using 4.1 as development env and have nightly builds run against Indigo/3.7 |
| + | ** Very easy to set up, ensures source compatibility against 4.x | ||
| + | ** Just download the [[http://download.eclipse.org/e4/sdk/ Eclipse 4.1 SDK]], then Install additional dependencies via p2, then open your existing workspace | ||
| + | *** Or physically copy your workspace to a new location for the 4.x host and open it there | ||
=== Items for next meeting === | === Items for next meeting === | ||
Revision as of 12:14, 11 November 2010
| Meeting Title: | Architecture Council Monthly Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Thursday November 11, 2010 at 1630 UTC / 0830 SFO / 1130 Ottawa / 1630 London / 1730 Berlin attention DST change HTML |  iCal
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Contents
Attendees
All AC Members are invited.
- PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
| BIRT: | |
Gary Xue |
| DTP: | Brian Payton | Linda Chan |
| DSDP: | Martin Oberhuber | TBD (DSDP-PMC) |
| Eclipse: | Mike Wilson | John Arthorne Boris Bokowski |
| Modeling: | Ed Merks | Cédric Brun Sven Efftinge |
| RT: | Jeff McAffer | Tom Watson |
| STP: | Antoine Toulme | Oisin Hurley |
| Technology: | Gunnar Wagenknecht | Wayne Beaton |
| Tools: | Doug Schaefer | |
| TPTP: | Jonathan West | |
| WTP: | Tim deBoer | Dave Carver Neil Hauge |
- Regrets: Oliver Cole (standing conflict), Wenfeng Li (standing conflict), Andrew Overholt (sabbatical), Darin Wright (conflict)
Agenda / Notes
- Feel free to edit, but not during the call!
Review of Last Meeting
- Architecture Council/Meetings/October 14 2010
- (old) Tim write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
- (old) Martin revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
- (old) Martin bug 315210 Make the AC mailing list open / moderated
- (old) Antoine / Dave C bug 316642 Requirements Wiki for build systems
- Still open items moved to #Action Items
New Topics
- EclipseCon - any architecture related talks planned?
- Martin wants to do an API Tutorial, anybody want to join?
- Kim: Platform Builds and Tests at Eclipse.org - anybody got a Mac they could donate?
- Test parallelization on multiple machines all done by Hudson... test-job for each target arch kicked off as soon as the main build is done
- Maven and Group ID
- Hudson reliability
- bug 324125 architecture diagrams - 2006 version - relationship to e4 ?
- Build systems requirements - Antoine, Dave C
- PDE Build, Tycho, Athena, Buckminster, b3 ... ?
- IP Logs - Martin and Wayne
- News from the Board, EMO and Councils
e4 - current state of affairs
- PC / Release Train Relationship to Eclipse 4.0
- Martin: TM/RSE runs on Eclipse 4.1m3 ... encourage using 4.1 as development env and have nightly builds run against Indigo/3.7
- Very easy to set up, ensures source compatibility against 4.x
- Just download the [Eclipse 4.1 SDK], then Install additional dependencies via p2, then open your existing workspace
- Or physically copy your workspace to a new location for the 4.x host and open it there
Items for next meeting
Regular briefing on the status of e4.
Old Topics
We need to reduce our bug backlog, by actually coming to a common resolution on some. Here are the most recent ones:
- DaveC would like to discuss New Committer Guidelines; Scrum / Agile techniques
- bug 285074 - Dave Carver - Hudsonbuilder and write access to the cvs / svn repo
- bug 288393 - Denis - Bugzilla Best Practices
- AC Bugzilla backlog
- See also Architecture Council/Open Issues for overflow items that were not discussed
- News from the EMO and Councils ?
Action Items
- (old) Michael to flesh out the Patterns idea and remind the EAC -- started Architecture Council/Top Ten Recommendations#Design Patterns, backed by EclipseCon tutorial proposals
- While these show how well-known GoF patterns are applied in Eclipse, Michael's idea was more to find and describe new patterns which are specific to Eclipse
- (old) Michael to draft an E-Mail about the "plugin granularity" idea, searching for people to lead the effort
- (old) Tools and Tech PMC's to encourage incubating grandfathered projects find a mentor; mentorless projects due to AC members quitting or falling dormant
- (old) Martin to add Eclipsecon meeting notes onto the wiki
- (old) Mik to create initial "architectural walkthrough" material for Mylyn -- 1 wiki page not too large, send link to the mailing list
- (old) Dave C work with Wayne on a "handbook" for project criteria for becoming a committer (referencing committer guidelines)
- Martin - recently updated the Eclipse/Workspace/Committer_FAQ#Becoming_a_Committer with pretty strict criteria (committed contributions)
- (old) Dave C come up with a document how to save build resources
- (old) Dave C to try bugzilla UNCONFIRMED state
- (old) Wayne to ask Sonatype about Nexus test installation
- (old) Wayne to try doing a 3.6m2 API Report on Helios m2
- (old) Martin to file bug for asking Mik hyperlink Wikitext / crowdsourcing Docs handbook on the Architecture Council/Top Ten Project Development Practices page
- (old) Tom S Athena Common Builder Cookbook
- (old) Tim write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
- Martin revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
- Martin bug 315210 Make the AC mailing list open / moderated
- Antoine / Dave C bug 316642 Requirements Wiki for build systems