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| '''Modeling:''' | | '''Modeling:''' | ||
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| '''Mylyn:''' | | '''Mylyn:''' | ||
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| − | | Mik Kersten | + | | <strike>Mik Kersten</strike> |
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| Christian Campo | | Christian Campo | ||
| − | | Tom Watson<br>Doug Clarke<br>Ian Bull | + | | <strike>Tom Watson</strike><br><strike>Doug Clarke</strike><br>Ian Bull |
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| '''SOA:''' | | '''SOA:''' | ||
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===All Attendees=== | ===All Attendees=== | ||
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| + | * '''In attendance:''' Max Andersen, Wayne Beaton, Marcel Bruch, Ian Bull, Christian Campo, Konstantin Kommissarchik, Denis Roy, Jonas Helming, Doug Schaefer, Martin O, Michael Scharf, Eike Stepper, Krum Tsvetkov, Gunnar Wagenknecht | ||
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=== New Topics === | === New Topics === | ||
| − | * Welcome Max Andersen | + | * Welcome '''Max Andersen''' (representing Red Hat as a Strategic Member) |
| + | ** Leading JBoss Tools for RH, involved with Eclipse sine 10+ years - using and contributing to many projects | ||
| + | ** Committer to Andmore, WTP and Dali; Couple other committers on the team (Gorkem Ercan, Rob Stryker) and working with others (Tim Fox, Alex Kurtakov, ...) | ||
| + | ** Interested in process implifications, and seeing what the AC can do | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Welcome '''Konstantin Kommisarchik''' | ||
| + | ** Leading a team at Oracle - both commercial and contributions to various projects (WTP, ...) | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Wayne: '''Nominations - AI Wayne''' take next step to contact candidates if they would be willing to join | ||
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| + | ==== Evangelism ==== | ||
| + | * Wayne: '''AC to do more evangelism''' | ||
| + | ** Take part of our monthly call to talk about evangelism (blogging; conferences; stickers, swag, ...) | ||
| + | ** Wayne can provide resources eg couple of slides like "What is the Eclipse Foundation" | ||
| + | ** *not* about adding more work on AC member's plate; all about "how do we help each other" eg conferences that we visit already | ||
| + | ** Marcel: Not sure how well this would work ... evangelism is about going to more conferences ? | ||
| + | ** Wayne: Eg at Devoxx France made good experiences | ||
| + | ** Jonas: Sees always the same people at "Eclipse related" events; doesn't see much Eclipse related content on other conferences | ||
| + | * Jonas: How to get to a new conference as a speaker ? | ||
| + | ** Foundation could potentially help getting some credibility for the speaker (eg do a promo video) | ||
| + | ** Example: Wayne is on the selection committee for the Development Tools track at JavaOne | ||
| + | |||
| + | * First Steps: Who's speaking at which conferences ? Eg set up an event page | ||
| + | ** '''AI Wayne''' follow up after the minutes | ||
| + | ** '''AI Martin''' create an initial table on the Wiki | ||
| + | *** Wayne: There's http://events.eclipse.org which we could better leverage | ||
| + | |||
| + | ==== Max: Challenges with Vertex ==== | ||
| + | * Process: Release Reviews, and the 2-week process; IP Review seen as extreme overhead | ||
| + | * Wayne: Can help on technical items | ||
| + | |||
| + | ==== Marcel: Error Reporting ==== | ||
| + | * Works well for some projects, but apparently not well enough for others (never got in touch with the system) | ||
| + | * Platform accumulated around 700 different issues, but only 60 of them currently tracked in bugzilla | ||
| + | ** Anything we could do to help Platform with resources - at least for fixing simple issues like NPEs ? | ||
| + | ** In touch with Lars, and Dani (to some extent) -- busy with endgame plan, planning to look at things after Mars Release | ||
| + | ** Many projects just look at issues the last day of their milestone ... others (eg JDT) doing an amazing job | ||
| + | ** Any alternative channel reaching out to projects | ||
| + | * Denis: Been fairly successful with please for help (if specific, and frequent) on ''eclipse.org-committers'' | ||
| + | ** Max will try to find people in RH to help | ||
| + | * Wayne: If swag is necessary, could help out (like ''greatfix initiative'' - great success) | ||
| + | ** Would like to do something like greatfix every month - looking at AC to provide proposals | ||
| + | *** Max feels that every month might be too much (and make it even more special every year) | ||
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| + | * Related: "Every Detail Matters for Mars" - want to make the IDE very user-focused (versus project focused) | ||
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Latest revision as of 12:22, 22 May 2015
| Meeting Title: | Architecture Council Monthly Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Thursday May 21, 2015 at 1600 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin attention DST change HTML |  iCal
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| Dial-in: | Let's use the Foundation's Asterisk setup for this call:
Participant conference extension: 701 then enter pin: 51968
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Contents
Attendees
All AC Members are invited.
- PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
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| Eclipse: | |
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| Modeling: | |
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| RT: | Christian Campo | Ian Bull |
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| Technology: | Gunnar Wagenknecht | Wayne Beaton |
| Tools: | Doug Schaefer | |
| WTP: | |
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All Attendees
- In attendance: Max Andersen, Wayne Beaton, Marcel Bruch, Ian Bull, Christian Campo, Konstantin Kommissarchik, Denis Roy, Jonas Helming, Doug Schaefer, Martin O, Michael Scharf, Eike Stepper, Krum Tsvetkov, Gunnar Wagenknecht
Agenda / Notes
- Feel free to edit, but not during the call!
Review of Last Meeting
- Architecture Council/Meetings/April 9 2015
- Still open items moved to #Action_Items
New Topics
- Welcome Max Andersen (representing Red Hat as a Strategic Member)
- Leading JBoss Tools for RH, involved with Eclipse sine 10+ years - using and contributing to many projects
- Committer to Andmore, WTP and Dali; Couple other committers on the team (Gorkem Ercan, Rob Stryker) and working with others (Tim Fox, Alex Kurtakov, ...)
- Interested in process implifications, and seeing what the AC can do
- Welcome Konstantin Kommisarchik
- Leading a team at Oracle - both commercial and contributions to various projects (WTP, ...)
- Wayne: Nominations - AI Wayne take next step to contact candidates if they would be willing to join
Evangelism
- Wayne: AC to do more evangelism
- Take part of our monthly call to talk about evangelism (blogging; conferences; stickers, swag, ...)
- Wayne can provide resources eg couple of slides like "What is the Eclipse Foundation"
- *not* about adding more work on AC member's plate; all about "how do we help each other" eg conferences that we visit already
- Marcel: Not sure how well this would work ... evangelism is about going to more conferences ?
- Wayne: Eg at Devoxx France made good experiences
- Jonas: Sees always the same people at "Eclipse related" events; doesn't see much Eclipse related content on other conferences
- Jonas: How to get to a new conference as a speaker ?
- Foundation could potentially help getting some credibility for the speaker (eg do a promo video)
- Example: Wayne is on the selection committee for the Development Tools track at JavaOne
- First Steps: Who's speaking at which conferences ? Eg set up an event page
- AI Wayne follow up after the minutes
- AI Martin create an initial table on the Wiki
- Wayne: There's http://events.eclipse.org which we could better leverage
Max: Challenges with Vertex
- Process: Release Reviews, and the 2-week process; IP Review seen as extreme overhead
- Wayne: Can help on technical items
Marcel: Error Reporting
- Works well for some projects, but apparently not well enough for others (never got in touch with the system)
- Platform accumulated around 700 different issues, but only 60 of them currently tracked in bugzilla
- Anything we could do to help Platform with resources - at least for fixing simple issues like NPEs ?
- In touch with Lars, and Dani (to some extent) -- busy with endgame plan, planning to look at things after Mars Release
- Many projects just look at issues the last day of their milestone ... others (eg JDT) doing an amazing job
- Any alternative channel reaching out to projects
- Denis: Been fairly successful with please for help (if specific, and frequent) on eclipse.org-committers
- Max will try to find people in RH to help
- Wayne: If swag is necessary, could help out (like greatfix initiative - great success)
- Would like to do something like greatfix every month - looking at AC to provide proposals
- Max feels that every month might be too much (and make it even more special every year)
- Would like to do something like greatfix every month - looking at AC to provide proposals
- Related: "Every Detail Matters for Mars" - want to make the IDE very user-focused (versus project focused)