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Architecture Council/Meetings/March 9 2017

Meeting Title: Architecture Council Monthly Meeting
Date & Time: Thursday March 9, 2017 at 1100 Ottawa
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Attendees

  • In attendance: Carl Anderson, Mickael Barbero, Wayne Beaton, Marcel Bruch, Christian Campo, Jonas Helming, Jim Hughes, Mickael Istria, Maximilian Kögel, Marc-Andre Laperle, Martin Lippert, Dani Megert, Alexander Nyßen, Martin O, Denis Roy, Doug Schaefer, Gunnar Wagenknecht, Tom Watson
  • Regrets: Jay Jay Billings, Mike Wilson, Pascal Rapicault, Krum Tsvetkov,


#PMC_Rep_Attendees see also below.

Agenda / Notes

General Topics

  • New Members - Wayne to nominate 1 or 2 more candidates from locationtech; Jonas to nominate one
    • Since Locationtech people are not so known to the current AC, might not get so many +1s
    • Consider changing voting procedures to require fewer than 50% of the active +1
    • RESOLUTION proceed with the nominations now, reconsider next month
  • Marcel - Marketplace: All Solution Providers got an invitation to use the AERI for own plugins

Denis: Bugzilla

  • Account moderation had been enabled
  • Thanks to collaboration with GNOME community, one of their spam prevention plugins could be installed
  • Deployed on Polarsys and Eclipse bugzilla - working great so far
  • Bugzilla version is old, but upgrading needs service upgrades too (planned for the summer)

Denis: Servers

  • 7 new servers deployed, 4 more to deploy in the coming weeks (in order to regain stability)

Wayne: Mentoring

  • Struggling to find mentors
  • Marcel: Don't see questions from mentored projects, so unsure about the benefit of mentoring
  • Wayne: Some projects violate Eclipse principles; Foundation is improving communication to alleviate this, but is it enough?
  • Jonas: When Eclipse opened up to IoT, Locationtech ... domains are unknown to many old-timers;
    • bring in more people to the AC? Or form a new (less formal) group of possible mentors, other than AC
    • Projects which have been in the ecosystem since 1 year or so might be more willing to mentor other newcomers
  • Jim: Been mentoring Locationtech, but the Locationtech Community is really disjoint with AC
  • AI Wayne create 2 Bugzilla's for discussion ("advice for mentors", and "changing the definition of the mentor pool"
  • There might be an option for refocusing the AC, to be discussed separately

Wayne: Dockerhub

  • Wayne has been given the keys to upload Polarsys and Locationtech; keys are available for anyone who wants to experiment with this
  • Che started doing some work with this
  • Not an official EF distribution channel yet, thus not imposing IP policy rules as of today ("let it happen for a while")
  • A bug is open for discussing the process
  • Jim: For Geomesa this has been very useful; Quaid is also looking at it; more lightweight process for distributing complete systems is very appreciated
  • Jim: In terms of pattern and practice, make it clear how to build a docker image (then it becomes clear what went into it)

Wayne: Security

  • Couple bugs is open regarding security policy
  • Consider alternative channels for projects to use, but don't want too many ... channels need to be private
  • Github currently doesn't have a mechanism for private communication
  • Right now there are 2 entrypoints -- Bugzilla, and Mailinglist; 2 bugs open for discussion
  • Jim: Dealing with security issues in downstream libs -- need to raise a CQ for upversioning dependent libs
    • Process is very heavy, could this be expedited in the IP process?
    • Wayne: PMCs need to react timely; when the IP team is told about urgency, they should be able to expedite
    • Wayne: There was a board resolution that "pure service release uprevs of a lib don't need a new IP Review, no CQ process"
    • If any functionality / APIs are added, we're back to the normal process; but for pure bugfixes, no CQ is needed
    • This was discussed in the Board more than a year ago (AI Wayne add exact reference)
    • If CQ list gets out-of-sync with the acutal libs, Wayne has tooling to consolidate; for final contents in a Simrel, creating a CQ might still make sense ... but not for milestones in-between
    • Dani and Martin think that minimal tracking in a CQ would help just to document that a security issue is resolved
    • Wayne: Hybrid approach - could use a lib right away and have CQ entered for tracking in parallel ... don't do unnecessary work. Projects can have their own policy.
    • Mikael: Documenting the ability to not have a CQ might actually introduce more complexity than the uniform and consistent approach we have now...
    • Dani: How to validate it's really just a bugfix and doesn't violate any IP? - Wayne: Would be the committer's duty to review
    • RESOLUTION: If unsure, talk to the IP team and create a CQ for discussion. Leave it to a committer to decide if it's just a bugfix and thus a CQ is needed or not.

Devoxx US / EclipseCon NA

  • AI Maximilian Quick poll on the mailing list for a F2F meeting


PMC Rep Attendees

All AC Members are invited.

  • PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
BIRT: Gary Xue
DTP: Brian Payton Linda Chan
Eclipse: Dani Megert Mike Wilson
Modeling: Ed Merks Cédric Brun
Eike Stepper
Mylyn: Steffen Pingel Mik Kersten
RT: Christian Campo Tom Watson
SOA: Adrian Mos Marc Dutoo
Technology: Gunnar Wagenknecht Wayne Beaton
Tools: Doug Schaefer Alex Kurtakov
WTP: Carl Anderson Neil Hauge
LocationTech: Jim Hughes
IoT: Julien Vermillard

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