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− | + | * '''In attendance:''' Jay Billings, Marcel Bruch, Jonas Helming, Jim Hughes, Dani Megert, Martin O, Michael Scharf, Doug Schaefer, Krum Tsvetkov, ?? from Ericsson | |
− | * '''In attendance:''' | + | * '''Regrets:''' Martin Lippert, Pascal Rapicault, Eike Stepper, Lars Vogel |
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=== New Topics === | === New Topics === | ||
− | * | + | * Marcel: Make error reports available to contributors, not only committers, and how |
+ | * Jonas: UID issue - involvement of the AC | ||
* Jay: Licensing ? (deferred from May call) | * Jay: Licensing ? (deferred from May call) | ||
+ | ** Being taken care of by Wayne, EF will reach out when they are ready | ||
+ | ==== Marcel: Make error reports available to contributors ==== | ||
+ | * JDT, Andmore and Buildship said that Error Reports (at list the aggregation) should be available to Contributors | ||
+ | * Anonymization: Only eclipse.org stacktraces, no actual error message, no user names, no IP ... | ||
+ | * There might be technical ways to accomplish that, but is it meaningful ? | ||
+ | ** Some projects requested it, so can be assumed it's meaningful | ||
+ | ** Committers moving reports into bugzilla after review doesn't scale - could Platform or others benefit from active contributors | ||
+ | * Martin: What about going the other way round - adding a privacy statement to the CLA | ||
+ | * (?? Ericsson): Do other projects (like Mozilla, Netbeans) have similar error reports, and are they public ? | ||
+ | * '''AI Marcel''' research other projects and talk to EF on legal concerns with allowing contributors access | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Jonas: UUID call home ==== | ||
+ | * Dani: Saw the feature only when Tom Watson from RT sent a note on {{bug|490112}} - commented that it should be opt-in but that was ignored | ||
+ | ** In RC3, code was added to only talk to eclipse.org servers, Community was only informed at RC4 | ||
+ | ** Don't know exactly if this was driven by Ian for Marketing only, or more EF | ||
+ | ** Marcel requested the announcement via Wayne (when asked about AERI addition) | ||
+ | * Jonas: Should the AC have been consulted ? If not consulted, is it still relevant ? | ||
+ | ** Marcel: Guidelines to Projects are very clear - {{bug|413169}} call home policy discussion | ||
+ | ** The EF would need to be consulted before anyone sends data back home | ||
+ | ** In this case it was special because Foundation staff themselves requested an opt-out | ||
+ | ** Requested change is that EF should reach out to PMCs / AC / cross-project before requesting such a change | ||
+ | ** '''AI Martin''' send message to Ian to that effect, request being informed Neon.1 | ||
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*(''old'') '''Martin''' {{bug|315210}} Make the AC mailing list open / moderated | *(''old'') '''Martin''' {{bug|315210}} Make the AC mailing list open / moderated | ||
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== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == |
Revision as of 11:41, 9 June 2016
Meeting Title: | Architecture Council Monthly Meeting |
Date & Time: | Thursday June 9, 2016 at 1100 Ottawa HTML | iCal |
Dial-in: | Let's use the Foundation's Asterisk setup for this call:
Participant conference extension: 701 then enter pin: 51968
|
Contents
Attendees
All AC Members are invited.
- PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
BIRT: | Wenfeng Li | Wenbin He |
DTP: | Brian Payton | Linda Chan |
Eclipse: | Dani Megert | Mike Wilson |
Modeling: | Ed Merks | Cédric Brun Eike Stepper |
Mylyn: | Steffen Pingel | Mik Kersten |
RT: | Christian Campo | Tom Watson Doug Clarke Ian Bull |
SOA: | Adrian Mos | Marc Dutoo |
Technology: | Gunnar Wagenknecht | Wayne Beaton |
Tools: | Doug Schaefer | |
WTP: | Chuck Bridgham | Neil Hauge |
LocationTech: | Jim Hughes | |
IoT: | Julien Damien |
All Attendees
- In attendance: Jay Billings, Marcel Bruch, Jonas Helming, Jim Hughes, Dani Megert, Martin O, Michael Scharf, Doug Schaefer, Krum Tsvetkov, ?? from Ericsson
- Regrets: Martin Lippert, Pascal Rapicault, Eike Stepper, Lars Vogel
Agenda / Notes
- Feel free to edit, but not during the call!
Review of Last Meeting
- Architecture Council/Meetings/May 12 2016
- Still open items moved to #Action_Items
New Topics
- Marcel: Make error reports available to contributors, not only committers, and how
- Jonas: UID issue - involvement of the AC
- Jay: Licensing ? (deferred from May call)
- Being taken care of by Wayne, EF will reach out when they are ready
Marcel: Make error reports available to contributors
- JDT, Andmore and Buildship said that Error Reports (at list the aggregation) should be available to Contributors
- Anonymization: Only eclipse.org stacktraces, no actual error message, no user names, no IP ...
- There might be technical ways to accomplish that, but is it meaningful ?
- Some projects requested it, so can be assumed it's meaningful
- Committers moving reports into bugzilla after review doesn't scale - could Platform or others benefit from active contributors
- Martin: What about going the other way round - adding a privacy statement to the CLA
- (?? Ericsson): Do other projects (like Mozilla, Netbeans) have similar error reports, and are they public ?
- AI Marcel research other projects and talk to EF on legal concerns with allowing contributors access
Jonas: UUID call home
- Dani: Saw the feature only when Tom Watson from RT sent a note on bug 490112 - commented that it should be opt-in but that was ignored
- In RC3, code was added to only talk to eclipse.org servers, Community was only informed at RC4
- Don't know exactly if this was driven by Ian for Marketing only, or more EF
- Marcel requested the announcement via Wayne (when asked about AERI addition)
- Jonas: Should the AC have been consulted ? If not consulted, is it still relevant ?
- Marcel: Guidelines to Projects are very clear - bug 413169 call home policy discussion
- The EF would need to be consulted before anyone sends data back home
- In this case it was special because Foundation staff themselves requested an opt-out
- Requested change is that EF should reach out to PMCs / AC / cross-project before requesting such a change
- AI Martin send message to Ian to that effect, request being informed Neon.1