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| '''BIRT:'''  
 
| '''BIRT:'''  
| Wenfeng Li
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| Wenbin He
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| <strike>Wenbin He</strike>
 
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| '''DTP:'''  
 
| '''DTP:'''  
| Brian Payton
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| <strike>Brian Payton</strike>
| Linda Chan
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| <strike>Linda Chan</strike>
 
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| '''Eclipse:'''  
 
| '''Eclipse:'''  
 
| Dani Megert
 
| Dani Megert
| Mike Wilson
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| <strike>Mike Wilson</strike>
 
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| '''Modeling:'''  
 
| '''Modeling:'''  
| Ed Merks
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| <strike>Ed Merks</strike>
| Cédric Brun<br>Eike Stepper
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| <strike>Cédric Brun</strike>
 
|-
 
|-
 
| '''Mylyn:'''  
 
| '''Mylyn:'''  
| Steffen Pingel
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| <strike>Steffen Pingel</strike>
| Mik Kersten
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| <strike>Mik Kersten</strike>
 
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|-
 
| '''RT:'''  
 
| '''RT:'''  
| Christian Campo
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| <strike>Christian Campo</strike>
| Tom Watson<br>Doug Clarke<br>Ian Bull
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| <strike>Tom Watson</strike>
 
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|-
 
| '''SOA:'''  
 
| '''SOA:'''  
| Adrian Mos
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| <strike>Adrian Mos</strike>
| Marc Dutoo
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| <strike>Marc Dutoo</strike>
 
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|-
 
| '''Technology:'''  
 
| '''Technology:'''  
| Gunnar Wagenknecht
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| <strike>Gunnar Wagenknecht</strike>
| Wayne Beaton
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| '''Tools:'''  
 
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| '''WTP:'''  
 
| '''WTP:'''  
| Chuck Bridgham
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| Neil Hauge
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| '''LocationTech:'''
 
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| '''IoT:'''
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===All Attendees===
 
===All Attendees===
  
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* '''In attendance:''' Jay Billings, Marcel Bruch, Jonas Helming, Jim Hughes, Dani Megert, Martin O, Michael Scharf, Doug Schaefer, Krum Tsvetkov, Marc-André Laperle
* '''In attendance:''' Wayne Beaton, Jay Billings, Marcel Bruch, Martin Lippert, Dani Megert, Alexander Niessen, Martin O, Pascal Rapicault, Denis Roy, Doug Schaefer, Mikael Istria, Cedric Brun, Christian Campo, Michael Scharf, Krum Tsvetkov  
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* '''Regrets:''' Martin Lippert, Pascal Rapicault, Eike Stepper, Lars Vogel
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* '''Regrets:''' Martin Lippert
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=== New Topics ===
 
=== New Topics ===
  
* Feel free to fill in, but not during the meeting :)
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* Marcel: Make error reports available to contributors, not only committers, and how
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* Jonas: UUID call home issue - involvement of the AC
 
* Jay: Licensing ? (deferred from May call)
 
* Jay: Licensing ? (deferred from May call)
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** Being taken care of by Wayne, EF will reach out when they are ready
  
 +
==== Marcel: Make error reports available to contributors ====
 +
* JDT, Andmore and Buildship said that Error Reports (at list the aggregation) should be available to Contributors
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* Anonymization: Only eclipse.org stacktraces, no actual error message, no user names, no IP ...
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* There might be technical ways to accomplish that, but is it meaningful ?
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** Some projects requested it, so can be assumed it's meaningful
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** Committers moving reports into bugzilla after review doesn't scale - could Platform or others benefit from active contributors
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* Martin: What about going the other way round - adding a privacy statement to the CLA
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* (?? Ericsson): Do other projects (like Mozilla, Netbeans) have similar error reports, and are they public ?
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* '''AI Marcel''' research other projects and talk to EF on legal concerns with allowing contributors access
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==== Jonas: UUID call home ====
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* Dani: Saw the feature only when Tom Watson from RT sent a note on {{bug|490112}} - commented that it should be opt-in but that was ignored
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** In RC3, code was added to only talk to eclipse.org servers, Community was only informed at RC4
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** Don't know exactly if this was driven by Ian for Marketing only, or more EF
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** Marcel requested the announcement (when asked about AERI addition)
 +
* Jonas: Should the AC have been consulted ? If not consulted, is it still relevant ?
 +
** Marcel: Guidelines to Projects are very clear - {{bug|413169}} call home policy discussion
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** The EF would need to be consulted before anyone sends data back home
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** In this case it was special because Foundation staff themselves requested an opt-out
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** Requested change is that EF should reach out to PMCs / AC / cross-project before requesting such a change
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** [[Image:Ok_green.gif]]'''[DONE] AI Martin''' send message to Ian to that effect, request being informed Neon.1
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=== General Topics ===
 
=== General Topics ===
  
* '''New AC Member candidates'''
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* '''New AC Member candidates''' - see [[Architecture Council/Members and Mentors]], and the [http://www.eclipse.org/org/foundation/council.php#architecture Councils Page]
 
** Tyler Jewell representing strategic member CodeEnvy
 
** Tyler Jewell representing strategic member CodeEnvy
See [[Architecture Council/Members and Mentors]], and the [http://www.eclipse.org/org/foundation/council.php#architecture Councils Page]
 
 
** Eclipse Che vs. Platform discussion
 
** Eclipse Che vs. Platform discussion
 
* '''Eclipse Infrastructure''' - git, Gerrit, Maven, Hudson, Bugzilla, ...
 
* '''Eclipse Infrastructure''' - git, Gerrit, Maven, Hudson, Bugzilla, ...
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*(''old'') '''Martin''' revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.  
 
*(''old'') '''Martin''' revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.  
 
*(''old'') '''Martin''' {{bug|315210}} Make the AC mailing list open / moderated
 
*(''old'') '''Martin''' {{bug|315210}} Make the AC mailing list open / moderated
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== Next Meeting  ==
 
== Next Meeting  ==
  
* [[Architecture Council/Meetings/July 14 2016]]
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* <strike>July 14 canceled</strike>
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* [[Architecture Council/Meetings/August 11 2016]]
  
 
[[Category:Architecture_Council_Meeting_Minutes]]
 
[[Category:Architecture_Council_Meeting_Minutes]]

Latest revision as of 02:43, 12 July 2016

Meeting Title: Architecture Council Monthly Meeting
Date & Time: Thursday June 9, 2016 at 1100 Ottawa
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Dial-in: Let's use the Foundation's Asterisk setup for this call:
  • North America (toll free) 1-866-569-4992
  • Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) 49-692-2224-6059
  • France (local call anywhere in France) 33-17-070-8535
  • Switzerland (local call anywhere in Switzerland) +41-44-580-2115
  • Spain, Sweden, others - see Asterisk/Numbers

Participant conference extension: 701 then enter pin: 51968

  • SIP clients can call 701@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 51968.

Attendees

All AC Members are invited.

  • PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
BIRT: Wenfeng Li Wenbin He
DTP: Brian Payton Linda Chan
Eclipse: Dani Megert Mike Wilson
Modeling: Ed Merks Cédric Brun
Mylyn: Steffen Pingel Mik Kersten
RT: Christian Campo Tom Watson
SOA: Adrian Mos Marc Dutoo
Technology: Gunnar Wagenknecht Wayne Beaton
Tools: Doug Schaefer
WTP: Chuck Bridgham Neil Hauge
LocationTech: Jim Hughes
IoT: Julien Vermillard

All Attendees

  • In attendance: Jay Billings, Marcel Bruch, Jonas Helming, Jim Hughes, Dani Megert, Martin O, Michael Scharf, Doug Schaefer, Krum Tsvetkov, Marc-André Laperle
  • Regrets: Martin Lippert, Pascal Rapicault, Eike Stepper, Lars Vogel


Agenda / Notes

  • Feel free to edit, but not during the call!

Review of Last Meeting

New Topics

  • Marcel: Make error reports available to contributors, not only committers, and how
  • Jonas: UUID call home issue - involvement of the AC
  • Jay: Licensing ? (deferred from May call)
    • Being taken care of by Wayne, EF will reach out when they are ready

Marcel: Make error reports available to contributors

  • JDT, Andmore and Buildship said that Error Reports (at list the aggregation) should be available to Contributors
  • Anonymization: Only eclipse.org stacktraces, no actual error message, no user names, no IP ...
  • There might be technical ways to accomplish that, but is it meaningful ?
    • Some projects requested it, so can be assumed it's meaningful
    • Committers moving reports into bugzilla after review doesn't scale - could Platform or others benefit from active contributors
  • Martin: What about going the other way round - adding a privacy statement to the CLA
  • (?? Ericsson): Do other projects (like Mozilla, Netbeans) have similar error reports, and are they public ?
  • AI Marcel research other projects and talk to EF on legal concerns with allowing contributors access

Jonas: UUID call home

  • Dani: Saw the feature only when Tom Watson from RT sent a note on bug 490112 - commented that it should be opt-in but that was ignored
    • In RC3, code was added to only talk to eclipse.org servers, Community was only informed at RC4
    • Don't know exactly if this was driven by Ian for Marketing only, or more EF
    • Marcel requested the announcement (when asked about AERI addition)
  • Jonas: Should the AC have been consulted ? If not consulted, is it still relevant ?
    • Marcel: Guidelines to Projects are very clear - bug 413169 call home policy discussion
    • The EF would need to be consulted before anyone sends data back home
    • In this case it was special because Foundation staff themselves requested an opt-out
    • Requested change is that EF should reach out to PMCs / AC / cross-project before requesting such a change
    • Ok green.gif[DONE] AI Martin send message to Ian to that effect, request being informed Neon.1


Next Meeting

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