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Architecture Council/Meetings/January 14 2010

Meeting Title: Architecture Council Monthly Meeting
Date & Time: Thursday January 14, 2010 at 1600 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin
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Attendees

All AC Members are invited.

  • PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
BIRT: Wenfeng Li Gary Xue
DTP: Brian Payton Linda Chan
DSDP: Martin Oberhuber
Eclipse: Mike Wilson John Arthorne
Modeling: Ed Merks Cédric Brun
RT: Jeff McAffer Tom Watson
STP: Oisin Hurley Antoine Toulme (unofficial)
Technology: Gunnar Wagenknecht (vacation) Wayne Beaton
Tools: Doug Schaefer
TPTP: Eugene Chan Joanna Kubasta (unofficial)
WTP: Tim deBoer Dave Carver
  • Regrets: Wayne Beaton, Dave Carver, Ed Merks (travelling), Tom Schindl (travelling), Darin Swanson, Gunnar Wagenknecht (vacation), Tom Watson (travelling), Mik Kersten (conflict)


Agenda / Notes

  • Feel free to edit, but not during the call!

Review of Last Meeting

  • Architecture Council/Meetings/December 10 2009
  • (old) Tools and Tech PMC's to encourage incubating grandfathered projects find a mentor; mentorless projects due to AC members quitting or falling dormant
  • (old) Martin to add Eclipsecon meeting notes onto the wiki
  • Martin to file bug for asking Mik hyperlink Wikitext / crowdsourcing Docs handbook on the Architecture Council/Top Ten Project Development Practices page
  • Ok green.gif Martin Ask PC to think about an "e4 ready" requirement for next year's train
  • Ok green.gif Martin Ask e4 team to pitch a migration talk at EclipseCon.
  • Still open items moved to #Action Items

New Topics

e4 - current state of affairs

  • McQ: e4 feels 1 milestone behind where it should be (original goal was self-hosting by Christmas)
  • McQ: Look and feel in e4 for the SDK: Susan Franklin created some Markups in bug 293481 please add constructive criticism
  • How could AC help / e4 be promoted / early adoption?

git at Eclipse - current state of affairs

  • is Git for Committers still up to date with bug 280583 complete for the read-only git of all of Eclipse
  • could instructions be simplified for the most common use cases:
    • Getting source for a plugin I want to change
    • Adding a branch for a patch of mine
    • Rebasing my branch to a new milestone

target platform docs

  • Today, all searchable documentation is for the development host (e.g. o.e.platform.doc.isv)
  • When I develop against multiple target platforms, how can I access correct documentation?
  • Sample use cases:
    • Use Eclipse 3.6m4 development host but work on the R3_5_maintenance brach as target platform
    • WTP: Documentation for the server-side target e.g. servlets
    • CDT: Documentation for the C runtime I develop against
    • RT/Equinox: Documentation for the target I develop against
  • Any known solutions? What are people doing today?
  • What could be done from an architectural point of view?

Tracing

  • Usage of tracing API (Tim D to discuss)

lnf in e4

Items for next meeting

Regular briefing on the status of e4.

Old Topics

We need to reduce our bug backlog, by actually coming to a common resolution on some. Here are the most recent ones:

  • DaveC would like to discuss New Committer Guidelines; Scrum / Agile techniques
  • bug 285074 - Dave Carver - Hudsonbuilder and write access to the cvs / svn repo
  • bug 288721 - Sonar / Eclemma - Cedric Brun, Dave Carver
  • bug 283745 - Maven Repository at Eclipse
  • bug 288393 - Denis - Bugzilla Best Practices
  • The art of project release naming - no bug yet ?!?

Action Items

  • (old) Martin to follow up on Architecture Diagrams idea
  • (old) Michael to flesh out the Patterns idea and remind the EAC -- started Architecture Council/Top Ten Recommendations#Design Patterns, backed by EclipseCon tutorial proposals
    • While these show how well-known GoF patterns are applied in Eclipse, Michael's idea was more to find and describe new patterns which are specific to Eclipse
  • (old) Michael to draft an E-Mail about the "plugin granularity" idea, searching for people to lead the effort
  • (old) Mik to create initial "architectural walkthrough" material for Mylyn -- 1 wiki page not too large, send link to the mailing list
  • (old) Dave C work with Wayne on a "handbook" for project criteria for becoming a committer (referencing committer guidelines)
  • (old) Dave C come up with a document how to save build resources
  • (old) Dave C to try bugzilla UNCONFIRMED state
  • Wayne to ask Sonatype about Nexus test installation
  • Wayne to try doing a 3.6m2 API Report on Helios m2
  • Wayne to ask EclipseCon PC/Donald if we can get a room for e4 Hack-a-thon (migration, creating plug-ins, etc.)
  • Wayne to discuss "e4 ready" marketing campaign with Ian.
  • 'Ed to tell Cloudsmith about bug 283745 Maven

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