Architecture Council/Meetings/April 8 2010
|Meeting Title:||Architecture Council Monthly Meeting|
|Date & Time:|| Thursday April 8, 2010 at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin attention DST change|
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All AC Members are invited.
- PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
|DTP:||Brian Payton||Linda Chan|
|DSDP:||Martin Oberhuber||TBD (DSDP-PMC)|
|Eclipse:||Mike Wilson|| John Arthorne|
|Modeling:||Ed Merks|| |
|RT:||Jeff McAffer||Tom Watson|
|| Dave Carver|
- Regrets: Oliver Cole (standing conflict), Wenfeng Li (standing conflict), Mik Kersten (travelling), Markus Knauer (travelling)
Agenda / Notes
- Feel free to edit, but not during the call!
Review of Last Meeting
- Architecture Council/Meetings/March 11 2010
- (old) Wayne to discuss "e4 ready" marketing campaign with Ian.
- Ed to tell Cloudsmith about bug 283745 Maven -> Idea is an aggregator to republish p2 as Maven
- Dave W does not see this happening for Helios .. work in progress, people know what needs to be done
- (old) Martin to file bug for asking Mik hyperlink Wikitext / crowdsourcing Docs handbook on the Architecture Council/Top Ten Project Development Practices page
- Tim write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
- Still open items moved to #Action Items
- Tom S Common Builder Cookbook?
- been on vacation, still on the list
- Chris A: bug 305544 Shortening the new committer process? Eg Orbit requires 7 days
- Wayne: Essence of the bug is allowing PMC's to shorten the new committer process
- Martin: Do some "parallel IP" like thing eg allow repository access immediately but have the full
- Tom: More in favor of reducing time rather than adding more complexity
- Dave C: Provisioning / Paperwork is often more time than getting the voting done
- Jeff: Wants to keep 1 week voting, but still make it faster allow people to commit code
- Wayne: Start paperwork process at the time of nomination in parallel to voting
- Resolution: continue discussion on the bug, Wayne to talk to IP team / Webmaster
- Jeff: Structuring of SDK, runtime and tooling features: meeting your consumer's needs.
- In RT, a number of projects ship runtimes + sources + tooling, these are often lumped together e.g. target platform as part of the tooling.
- Martin: New AC Members Process
- (a) the process: criteria for ac members, vs people to just do some work
- (b) how it's documented
- Martin: AC Calendar / Scheduling
- Antoine T.: discuss new TLP for languages http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-architecture-council/msg01272.html
- Antoine T.: discuss Technology project lifecycle http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-architecture-council/msg01272.html
- Antoine T.: discuss PMC organization and approval lags http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-architecture-council/msg01272.html
e4 - current state of affairs
Items for next meeting
Regular briefing on the status of e4.
We need to reduce our bug backlog, by actually coming to a common resolution on some. Here are the most recent ones:
- DaveC would like to discuss New Committer Guidelines; Scrum / Agile techniques
- bug 285074 - Dave Carver - Hudsonbuilder and write access to the cvs / svn repo
- bug 283745 - Maven Repository at Eclipse
- bug 288393 - Denis - Bugzilla Best Practices
- The art of project release naming - no bug yet ?!?
- AC Bugzilla backlog
- See also Architecture Council/Open Issues for overflow items that were not discussed
- News from the EMO and Councils ?
- (old) Martin to follow up on Architecture Diagrams idea
- (old) Michael to flesh out the Patterns idea and remind the EAC -- started Architecture Council/Top Ten Recommendations#Design Patterns, backed by EclipseCon tutorial proposals
- While these show how well-known GoF patterns are applied in Eclipse, Michael's idea was more to find and describe new patterns which are specific to Eclipse
- (old) Michael to draft an E-Mail about the "plugin granularity" idea, searching for people to lead the effort
- (old) Tools and Tech PMC's to encourage incubating grandfathered projects find a mentor; mentorless projects due to AC members quitting or falling dormant
- (old) Martin to add Eclipsecon meeting notes onto the wiki
- (old) Mik to create initial "architectural walkthrough" material for Mylyn -- 1 wiki page not too large, send link to the mailing list
- (old) Dave C work with Wayne on a "handbook" for project criteria for becoming a committer (referencing committer guidelines)
- (old) Dave C come up with a document how to save build resources
- (old) Dave C to try bugzilla UNCONFIRMED state
- (old) Wayne to ask Sonatype about Nexus test installation
- (old) Wayne to try doing a 3.6m2 API Report on Helios m2
- Architecture Council/Meetings/May 13 2010