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** PII Changes for UI/Non-UI Splitting e.g. {{Bug|190231}} SubSystem, {{Bug|211067}} SystemMessages in Services | ** PII Changes for UI/Non-UI Splitting e.g. {{Bug|190231}} SubSystem, {{Bug|211067}} SystemMessages in Services | ||
** '''[https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+M5&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit 3.0 M5 assigned open bugs]''' | ** '''[https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=3.0+M5&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit 3.0 M5 assigned open bugs]''' | ||
+ | *** SystemMessages UI/Core separation - '''AI DaveM to investigate''' | ||
+ | **** DaveD prefer to have standard NLS strings only | ||
* '''[[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa#Ramp_down_for_Europa_SR2_.2829-Feb-2007.29|TM 2.0.3]]''' upcoming Feb.29 -- [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=2.0.3&cmdtype=doit 2.0.3 assigned bugs], any else? | * '''[[TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa#Ramp_down_for_Europa_SR2_.2829-Feb-2007.29|TM 2.0.3]]''' upcoming Feb.29 -- [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&target_milestone=2.0.3&cmdtype=doit 2.0.3 assigned bugs], any else? | ||
+ | ** '''AI All''' file 'backport' bugs for 2.0.3 until end of this week | ||
* '''Planning''' - '''AI Martin''' to write up what we discussed in Toronto | * '''Planning''' - '''AI Martin''' to write up what we discussed in Toronto | ||
** Think about assigning bugs to target milestones. What goes into 3.0 and what not? | ** Think about assigning bugs to target milestones. What goes into 3.0 and what not? | ||
* Eugene new committer | * Eugene new committer | ||
− | * Can we | + | * Can we commit to support Java 6 (just runtime)? |
+ | ** YES. Develop against Java 1.4 and test against Java 6. Main topic is incorporation of scripting. Eclipse Debugger supports finding references of objects. | ||
* TM Website | * TM Website | ||
** {{Bug|216197}} Bugs link on the side nav bar is broken by that latest changes | ** {{Bug|216197}} Bugs link on the side nav bar is broken by that latest changes | ||
− | ** Kevin: | + | ** Kevin: Discussions fine so far, not touched the code yet? |
− | + | ** Martin: Would like to get more dynamic information onto the homepage in an automated manner e.g. automated release notes with milestones. Avoid merging errors if starting work end this week. | |
− | ** Martin: Would like to get more dynamic information onto the homepage in an automated manner e.g. automated release notes with milestones | + | |
* Bug Fixing - '''Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan''' | * Bug Fixing - '''Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan''' | ||
** Since our [[DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007]] it's now 20 weeks / 4 milestones, so each committer is due 40 fixes / 8 unittests | ** Since our [[DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007]] it's now 20 weeks / 4 milestones, so each committer is due 40 fixes / 8 unittests | ||
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** Unittests: Xuan, DaveM, Javier added some; Martin 0; not sure about others; Martin working on Releng scripts next | ** Unittests: Xuan, DaveM, Javier added some; Martin 0; not sure about others; Martin working on Releng scripts next | ||
* Next [[BugDay/February_2008]] on Feb 29 | * Next [[BugDay/February_2008]] on Feb 29 | ||
− | * '''Javier''' busy until end of Feb; | + | * '''Javier''' busy until end of Feb; no time for Eclipse currently |
− | * '''DaveD's''' | + | * '''DaveD's''' lazy init done. {{Bug|217556}} ServiceSubSystem |
− | ** | + | ** What if a subsystem does not have a service layer? - Return null for getServiceType() |
− | ** This is maybe related to {{Bug|160403}} Filters should be connection-private by default | + | ** Existing code that checks whether something has a service needs to be changed: '''AI DaveD''' Find references to IServiceSubSystem |
+ | ** {{bug|217894}} Subsystem Configuration Families - subsystem category would be orthogonal to subsystem family -- family would be related to connector service -- '''AI All''' comment on the bug | ||
+ | ** Import/export connections rather than profiles - extend the persistence provider for import/export. Use a profile that only contains those things relevant to the exported elements, and merge it on import (or instantiate + copy). | ||
+ | *** Uwe: Contributors may have their own format for import/export already | ||
+ | *** This is maybe related to {{Bug|160403}} Filters should be connection-private by default | ||
* '''DaveM:''' - | * '''DaveM:''' - | ||
− | + | ** EFS and encodings - No response from platform or TPF teams | |
− | ** EFS and encodings - | + | ** (TPF) product teams extended SystemView in the past, no response from them |
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* '''Kevin:''' - | * '''Kevin:''' - | ||
− | * '''Xuan:''' - Need to add plugin org.eclipse.rse.useractions into build. Needed by IBM | + | * '''Xuan:''' - Need to add plugin org.eclipse.rse.useractions into build. Needed by IBM (after M5) |
+ | ** Martin: will need to be a separate downloadable component. | ||
* '''Martin:''' - Need to put Project Plan on the Web; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night | * '''Martin:''' - Need to put Project Plan on the Web; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night | ||
* '''Uwe:''' - | * '''Uwe:''' - | ||
* '''Rupen:''' - {{Bug|210682}} - Multi-file conflict resolution on Copy - dialog ready, jpeg posted on the bug | * '''Rupen:''' - {{Bug|210682}} - Multi-file conflict resolution on Copy - dialog ready, jpeg posted on the bug | ||
+ | ** Want to get current state (functional dialog) committed and treat changes via separate bugs. Issues with cross-subsystem copies | ||
* '''Michael:''' - | * '''Michael:''' - | ||
* '''Questions''' | * '''Questions''' |
Revision as of 12:59, 6 February 2008
Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
Date & Time: | Wednesday Feb 6, 2007 at 1600 UTC / 1100 Eastern |
Dial-in: | Martin to call everybody by Skype |
Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Contents
Invited Attendees
- IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams, Eugene Tarassov
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Agenda
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008
Current Work
- Skype Call Quality
- M5 upcoming - Test and endgame plan?
- Want M5 finished by Friday Feb 15 --> Risky checkins to be complete by Friday Feb 8 --> Test run on Tuesday Feb 12
- First PII drop on Feb 25th, Deadline until end of M6; try to minimize any wholesale changes after Feb.25th
- PII Changes for UI/Non-UI Splitting e.g. bug 190231 SubSystem, bug 211067 SystemMessages in Services
- 3.0 M5 assigned open bugs
- SystemMessages UI/Core separation - AI DaveM to investigate
- DaveD prefer to have standard NLS strings only
- SystemMessages UI/Core separation - AI DaveM to investigate
- TM 2.0.3 upcoming Feb.29 -- 2.0.3 assigned bugs, any else?
- AI All file 'backport' bugs for 2.0.3 until end of this week
- Planning - AI Martin to write up what we discussed in Toronto
- Think about assigning bugs to target milestones. What goes into 3.0 and what not?
- Eugene new committer
- Can we commit to support Java 6 (just runtime)?
- YES. Develop against Java 1.4 and test against Java 6. Main topic is incorporation of scripting. Eclipse Debugger supports finding references of objects.
- TM Website
- bug 216197 Bugs link on the side nav bar is broken by that latest changes
- Kevin: Discussions fine so far, not touched the code yet?
- Martin: Would like to get more dynamic information onto the homepage in an automated manner e.g. automated release notes with milestones. Avoid merging errors if starting work end this week.
- Bug Fixing - Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
- Since our DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007 it's now 20 weeks / 4 milestones, so each committer is due 40 fixes / 8 unittests
- Current situation is on this bugzilla report
- Unittests: Xuan, DaveM, Javier added some; Martin 0; not sure about others; Martin working on Releng scripts next
- Next BugDay/February_2008 on Feb 29
- Javier busy until end of Feb; no time for Eclipse currently
- DaveD's lazy init done. bug 217556 ServiceSubSystem
- What if a subsystem does not have a service layer? - Return null for getServiceType()
- Existing code that checks whether something has a service needs to be changed: AI DaveD Find references to IServiceSubSystem
- bug 217894 Subsystem Configuration Families - subsystem category would be orthogonal to subsystem family -- family would be related to connector service -- AI All comment on the bug
- Import/export connections rather than profiles - extend the persistence provider for import/export. Use a profile that only contains those things relevant to the exported elements, and merge it on import (or instantiate + copy).
- Uwe: Contributors may have their own format for import/export already
- This is maybe related to bug 160403 Filters should be connection-private by default
- DaveM: -
- EFS and encodings - No response from platform or TPF teams
- (TPF) product teams extended SystemView in the past, no response from them
- Kevin: -
- Xuan: - Need to add plugin org.eclipse.rse.useractions into build. Needed by IBM (after M5)
- Martin: will need to be a separate downloadable component.
- Martin: - Need to put Project Plan on the Web; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night
- Uwe: -
- Rupen: - bug 210682 - Multi-file conflict resolution on Copy - dialog ready, jpeg posted on the bug
- Want to get current state (functional dialog) committed and treat changes via separate bugs. Issues with cross-subsystem copies
- Michael: -
- Questions
- Bugzilla:
Vacation, Away
- DaveD on vacation Feb 18-21
- Feb.18 is Family Day in Ontario
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD: fixes, unit tests
- DaveM: Ask committers about multi-property-dialog; fixes, unit tests; ask Violaine about bug 209704
- Xuan: fixes, unit tests
- Kevin: fixes, unit tests
- Martin: Update bugzilla's; Write-up TM 3.0 Plan; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues; unit tests; Releng Fixes, Newsgroup
- Javier: fixes, unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to CVS -- see also CVS_Development#Testing
- Michael: Terminal improvements
Next Meeting
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Feb-2008 (2 weeks) at 1600 UTC
- Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 5-Mar-2008 at 9am PST / 1700 UTC