Revision as of 10:55, 13 March 2013

Documents

Some documents written and/or used by the PMC:

• E4/Graduation_4.0
• Eclipse/PMC/Unix Groups

Meeting Schedule

The Eclipse Project PMC has a weekly phone meeting every wednesday at 10.30am EST.

Meeting Minutes

March 13, 2013 - McQ, John, Martin, Dani

• Andrew: bug 397896 final throughts on the EPP package
  • Move forward with [1]
  • Testing - could find someone if it's just "use during the test pass"
  • Q: Can the EPP build be done frequently so it's available 1 week before the milestone for testing ?
• Martin: bug 402509 context menu filtering
  • Would like to get some advice from Platform on the approach; some trajectory of a solution moving forward
  • Not a must-have for Kepler, but would like to see where this is heading
  • AI McQ find Platform folk to discuss this
• John: Eclipse 4 API Status
  • Publishing a "usable subset" of the former provisional API as final: model, core services; consume injection
  • Allows building a real Eclipse 4 App now on API
    • Mostly clean-up, documentation; removing some bad stuff
    • Writing an App on Kepler E4 API might actually be able to run on Juno
  • Some of the advanced stuff remains provisional for now, eg define injection
• John: Plan Update - No permission to update in the PMI
• McQ: CBI / Bad Launcher
  • Have an idea that doing some little extra work after the CBI build might be good enough for now
  • HP-UX CBI Build doesn't start out of the box (will likely stay a known issue for M6)
• Martin: bug 380325 Java7 EFS Plugin: Build ?

March 6, 2013 - McQ, John, Martin, Andrew

• Martin: bug 402509 context menu filtering
  • AI Martin ask engineers document what we're doing today
• Martin: bug 397896 EPP vs Classic - how to proceed
  • Martin's recent findings on Marketplace
    • There's p2, Marketplace, Packages in the Open but they are only parts of the solution
    • There's commercial installers from EclipseSource (Yoxos), Genuitec, IBM
    • John: p2 simplified UI (eg Webtools Server Adaptors; Mylyn)
  • What's missing ? David too booked ?
• John: CBI Builds in Kepler - SDK in good shape but repo and Equinox downloadpage not quite right yet, some might take until M6
• John: Delete old Platform/UI Branches - any PMC Policy ? No, convert branches to tags
• John: API Freeze next week - some (modest) new Eclipse 4 API's
  • McQ recommends going for a "complete, but minimal subset of what people will want to do", rather than too many convenience methods
  • John: Some API has been provisional for 3 years - can't make wholesale changes now for the fun of it
    • May phase in some changes by adding @noreference rather than deleting stuff
    • In some cases there's pressure to use interfaces rather than classes, in order to be able and leverage Java 8 constructs
• Orion - anybody going to JSConf ?

February 27, 2013 - John, Andrew, Dani

• Nothing noteworthy

February 20, 2013 - McQ, John, Dani, Martin, Andrew

• John: Orion Release Review, please give feedback

February 13, 2013

• bug 156134 re-exporting debug dependencies

February 6, 2013 - John, Dani, Martin

• John: M5a and SR2 RC4
• John: Pawel and Platform / Debug work (Pin & Clone)
  • Only adopt when it's really ready and satisfies all criteria, otherwise not into Kepler
  • Maybe pull out Debug plugins into a feature of their own ?

January 30, 2013 - McQ, John, Dani, Martin, Andrew

• John: SR2 RC3 looking good - want to know about any remaining issues
• Dani: Java 8 Update - Markus Keller will move from JDT UI to JDT Core, taking over JSR-308
• John: NODE Dependency in Orion (exempt pre-req)
  • Not shipping NODE ourselves, pushing to NODE package manager instead (or clone from git)
  • Andrew: Is it a workswith ?
  • Martin: Is there any overlap with the Java portion ?
    • The server code is completely distinct from Java, but the same client can interact with both

January 24, 2013 -

• Martin: 4.3 and 3.8 dual-stream - Webtools project plan
  • egit, mylyn, dtp have been doing both n + n-1 for a long time
  • Technically, running on both should be possible if Platform API is used (except for the changes in Theming)
  • The Eclipse Community needs to advance the latest (4.3)
  • IBM product teams have been told not to forward at all if they can't forward to 4.x - shipping on 4.2
  • John: Having wider ranges of tolerance is something we should be able to do (otherwise our plugin system is failing)
  • John: Java8 will be the first killer feature in 4.x
• Dani: Java 8
  • Will provide feature patches as soon as it makes sense - early draft, participating in expert group
  • Want to have the compiler and editor ready when Java 8 goes GA - initial refactoring etc in SR1 - full feature set in the next release
• John: CBI update
  • Consider switch after M5

January 17, 2013 - McQ, John, Martin

• John: bug 397896 EPP vs Classic
  • Could volunteer to own the EPP package from Platform POV
  • Then Wayne would own the decision of RCP/RAP vs Classic - what's the difference, keep both or unify
• John: Test Failures on I-Builds
  • Move away tests that have been failing for 9 months
  • Dani: Most tests are actually down to 0 failures
• John: CBI / Maven Builds
  • Appears to be fragile at the moment - Maven .micro releases are breaking the build!

January 10, 2013 - McQ, John, Dani, Martin

• McQ: CBI - Switching Platform build to CBI for SR2 is not doable
  • Want to make CBI work for Juno since it's the LTS stream
  • CBI SDK builds are good at this point, it's only a couple of minor issues (shape of repos, download page, ...
  • When to switch to CBI in the Kepler Stream ? - Proposal do do it immediately
• CBI patches waiting for Platform to pick up

January 3, 2013 - McQ, Andrew, John, Dani

• Andrew will recommend good conferences to promote Orion

Archive

• Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2012
• Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2011
• Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2010
• Archive of Meeting Minutes from 2009