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Equinox Minutes - 20080129

Call-in Information

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Attendees

  • John Arthorne
  • Oleg Besedin
  • Matt Flaherty
  • DJ Houghton
  • Simon Kaegi
  • Tim Mok
  • Andrew Niefer
  • Pascal Rapicault
  • Tom Watson

Topics

Lazy-Start vs. Bundle-Activation-Policy

What do we tell people, and what do we do for Equinox bundles?

  • people have been asking what to do
  • we need to provide direction
  • if they switch, their bundles won't run in old (3.2) environments
  • for instance SWT doesn't care what version or even if they are started
  • people can use both headers if they want
  • if you rely on something in the new Equinox, then use the new header
  • currently a bug report open so they should add a native code header so they can run on other frameworks
  • SWT actually looks for the JAR and does the extraction themselves
  • will recommend that people just add in the new header and don't remove the old one
  • PDE shouldn't give a warning (we asked them not to)
  • they are adding a check to ensure that the headers are compatible
  • tom to send note to eclipse-dev and cross-project-dev
  • tom is looking at our bundles to update them so they run on other frameworks

Ganymede CQs

Two days until Ganymede CQ deadline - are all CQs in for Equinox?

  • security work is done
  • prosyst is done
  • jetty is done
  • there is a bug open to make the CQ requirements for graduation process clearer

Eclipse 3.4 M5

Coming soon... how do we look?

  • andrew to talk to pde/ui to ensure p2 export stuff is good
  • security
    • not much externally
    • doc review
    • working on kiosk login model
  • p2
    • good progress
    • some pde integration
    • provide installer
    • some tooling work

API freeze

  • should we send a note to the community reminding them about the api freeze if there are bugs out there that have slipped through the cracks.
  • will ask at arch meeting for pmc member to remind community of API freeze
  • are people able to determine whether or not their fix will require API?
  • we need to go through the bug reports
  • can use api keyword for bugs which require new api

p2 Post-M5

  • talk to pmc
  • graduation review feb 13
  • pascal to prepare the slides (and call on others if necessary)

Package "uses" Clause

  • tom sent note to mailing list
  • can't do much for 3.4
  • might add some timeouts and when we hit them, choose best combination so far

Bundle Format Header

  • haven't made changes yet
  • framework won't do anything with the header
  • advice for provisioning and pde
  • decided that Eclipse-BundleShape is good